From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33076: 26; `read-only-mode' messages Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:49:00 +0200 Message-ID: <878se9s4gj.fsf@gnus.org> References: <7d9a4a45-ac3d-4cff-a305-0e9e957b7609@default> <87zhlm2dwf.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34872"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 33076@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 17:53:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8ms8-0008wp-54 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:53:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37444 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8ms7-0001kK-3j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8mpG-0006R6-1p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k8mpF-0003Gf-Nw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:50:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8mpF-0000vL-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:50:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 33076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33076.15979385533477 (code B ref 33076); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 15:49:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43599 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8moS-0000u1-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8moR-0000tl-EM for 33076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 11:49:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aljN6Eci9VXgGUGGwUDoUsAEoXetIBNLB489eW0Hvcs=; b=FB7xCFmvdtnHCy8VVDki9p7ICC JtgqdUVF87+C7a0c0cUlUuMDGmkm5ET13UOMY691Bg1N5T1NMEy6OG5boububAQr5mHP9KrYa80Ft agopf6haJEu8y0EV2NxHRMDa/G11kvuX/852XrKU2Y+Ldgb76F+rM+9vTo7DQMC6RYGI=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8moI-0005RH-3W; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:49:04 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Panoptique Electrical's _Quiet Ecology_: "A Place With Trees" In-Reply-To: <87zhlm2dwf.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 10 Jul 2019 15:54:40 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185710 Archived-At: > This is output by the define-minor-mode machinery: > > (if (called-interactively-p 'any) > (progn > ,(if (and globalp (not variable)) > `(customize-mark-as-set ',mode)) > ;; Avoid overwriting a message shown by the body, > ;; but do overwrite previous messages. > (unless (and (current-message) > (not (equal ,last-message > (current-message)))) > (let ((local ,(if globalp "" " in current buffer"))) > (message ,(format "%s %%sabled%%s" pretty-name) > (if ,getter "en" "dis") local))))) > > So it looks easy enough to change, but it's a change that would affect > all minor mode. Do we want all interactive minor modes to message the > buffer names? I don't know what I think of it myself. > > Perhaps mainly because some buffer names are so long that this would > increase the echo area sometimes, which is slightly annoying. After thinking about this for a year, I've come to the conclusion that this would be more annoying than informative, so I'm closing this as a "wontfix". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no