* bug#45686: 28.0.50; Could minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer inhibit modifications hooks, please?
@ 2021-01-06 0:25 Omar Antolín Camarena
2021-01-10 14:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Omar Antolín Camarena @ 2021-01-06 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 45686
I'd like it if minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer was wrapped in
(let ((inhibit-modification-hooks t))
...)
In case that minibuffer-eldef-shorten-default is set to t,
minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer will modify the minibuffer contents
temporarily, but I don't think this modification should count. What do
people here think?
Now, I may be wrong about this, and also there maybe a better way to
solve my problem, so let me briefly explain it.
For every time the minibuffer is opened, I want to do something the
first time the minibuffer-contents change (basically pop up something
like a *Completions* buffer). What I'm currently doing is this:
(defun wait-for-a-change ()
(remove-hook 'after-change-functions 'wait-for-a-change t)
(do-the-thing-I-want))
(defun setup-to-do-the-thing-after-a-change ()
(when minibuffer-completion-table
(add-hook 'after-change-functions #'wait-for-a-change nil t)))
(add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook #'setup-to-do-the-thing-after-a-change)
This works fabulously except if I use
(setq minibuffer-eldef-shorten-default t)
(minibuffer-electric-default-mode)
Because if the minibuffer prompt does have a default, and it gets
shortened, the shortening triggers after-change-functions even though
the user hasn't typed anything at the minibuffer. So that's why I want
minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer to inhibit modification hooks, but if
there's a reason it shouldn't or a better way to solve my problem, I
would love to hear it.
For now, I just add this to my configuration, so my problem is actually
solved already:
(defun stealthily (fn &rest args)
(let ((inhibit-modification-hooks t))
(apply fn args)))
(advice-add 'minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer :around #'stealthily)
Thanks in advance!
--
Omar Antolín Camarena
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* bug#45686: 28.0.50; Could minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer inhibit modifications hooks, please?
2021-01-06 0:25 bug#45686: 28.0.50; Could minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer inhibit modifications hooks, please? Omar Antolín Camarena
@ 2021-01-10 14:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-10 14:57 ` Omar Antolín Camarena
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-01-10 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Omar Antolín Camarena; +Cc: 45686
Omar Antolín Camarena <omar@matem.unam.mx> writes:
> I'd like it if minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer was wrapped in
>
> (let ((inhibit-modification-hooks t))
> ...)
[...]
> This works fabulously except if I use
>
> (setq minibuffer-eldef-shorten-default t)
> (minibuffer-electric-default-mode)
>
> Because if the minibuffer prompt does have a default, and it gets
> shortened, the shortening triggers after-change-functions even though
> the user hasn't typed anything at the minibuffer. So that's why I want
> minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer to inhibit modification hooks, but if
> there's a reason it shouldn't or a better way to solve my problem, I
> would love to hear it.
Well, I could see others wanting to trigger something on these
modifications, too, so I'm not sure inhibiting these specific
modifications from running the hooks would be a good general solution.
And as you say:
> For now, I just add this to my configuration, so my problem is actually
> solved already:
>
> (defun stealthily (fn &rest args)
> (let ((inhibit-modification-hooks t))
> (apply fn args)))
>
> (advice-add 'minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer :around #'stealthily)
That looks like the correct solution for your use case?
Anybody else got an opinion here?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#45686: 28.0.50; Could minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer inhibit modifications hooks, please?
2021-01-10 14:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-01-10 14:57 ` Omar Antolín Camarena
2021-06-04 10:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Omar Antolín Camarena @ 2021-01-10 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 45686
> Well, I could see others wanting to trigger something on these
> modifications, too, so I'm not sure inhibiting these specific
> modifications from running the hooks would be a good general solution.
I cannot imagine anyone wanting to trigger something when eldef shortens
the prompt! But that could easily be a lack of imagination on my part. :)
I think my problem is that I'm wrong about what after-change-functions
is for. I thought it was supposed to trigger when the buffer changes due
to direct user actions, but the documentation says "after every change",
not "after user-initiated changes" or something like that. Maybe I just
need to re-adjust my expectations of when that hook runs.
> That looks like the correct solution for your use case?
Seems so.
> Anybody else got an opinion here?
I'd be interested to read other opinions, particularly if someone has a
useful example of triggering something to happen when eldef shortens the
prompt (since a single example would increase my powers of imagination!).
--
Omar
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* bug#45686: 28.0.50; Could minibuf-eldef-setup-minibuffer inhibit modifications hooks, please?
2021-01-10 14:57 ` Omar Antolín Camarena
@ 2021-06-04 10:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-06-04 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Omar Antolín Camarena; +Cc: 45686
Omar Antolín Camarena <omar@matem.unam.mx> writes:
>> That looks like the correct solution for your use case?
>
> Seems so.
>
>> Anybody else got an opinion here?
>
> I'd be interested to read other opinions, particularly if someone has a
> useful example of triggering something to happen when eldef shortens the
> prompt (since a single example would increase my powers of imagination!).
It didn't seem like anybody had any opinions here... My feeling is that
the current system has the flexibility needed for different use cases,
and as you demonstrated in your example, you can work with the current
system to make it do what you want it to.
So I don't think we should change anything here, and I'm therefore
closing this bug report. If others think that this is something that
should be revised, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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