From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 18:30:58 +0200 Message-ID: <878s2arxa5.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87a6n5vuu4.fsf@gnus.org> <8735sqnmei.fsf@gnus.org> <87zguyf4ht.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvum54p.fsf@gnus.org> <87v95mf2lj.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvt3ob1.fsf@gnus.org> <87fswpgacv.fsf@gmx.de> <87bl7dfikj.fsf@gmx.de> <8735sofuqj.fsf@gmx.de> <83sg0oc83l.fsf@gnu.org> <87v95jevrm.fsf@gmx.de> <83lf6fdav4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1g7eoor.fsf@gmx.de> <87im1jphyy.fsf@gnus.org> <87im1fd4fr.fsf@gmx.de> <83sg0jaaud.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6mrd2di.fsf@gmx.de> <838s2ba18y.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmvnsadx.fsf@gnus.org> <837dhva0vi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, ncaprisunfan@gmail.com, 49261@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 13 18:36:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3LOr-0001o5-K0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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I think it's more natural, but even if you > disagree, would it do as a compromise? I don't mind adding a special Tramp variable here (perhaps there should be one for auto save file names, too, for symmetry)? But I do think allowing people to inhibit locks/auto save files on a path name basis is good functionality in general, Tramp no Tramp. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no