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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: 50136@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#50136: 28.0.50; A problem with rx-let expansion
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:45:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s0vc97a.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B4B50ED2-0692-48DF-82A4-977D44C6C3B0@acm.org> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Fri, 20 Aug 2021 20:45:41 +0200")

Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org> writes:

> Yes. It was (and is) a trade-off between the simpler "template-like"
> semantics currently used and the programmatic "execute code" semantics
> of Lisp macros. The idea was that the simpler semantics would be
> simpler and sufficient for most uses, and `eval` forms could always be
> employed in other cases.

Ah ok, now my picture gets somewhat clearer.  The semantics I wish for
are already possible.  I need to use `eval' on the one side, and &rest
on the other.  Since REST from &rest rest is spliced in, I can't use
REST like a variable (and e.g. test whether any args have been provided,
that is impossible, since in that case it expands to nothing); instead I
can use something like

  (let ((args (list rest))) ...)

inside rx `eval' and use that as argument list variable.

I think I can live with that.

Maybe it would be good to improve the docstring to say the things that I
missed clearer? - Say explicitly that this mechanism is different from
macros, instead it's just a simple substitution mechanism, and add a
simple example to the docstring as a reference, even if we already have
examples in the manual.

Maybe also tell that using `eval' you can still have a macro-like
behavior in the end.

Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-21 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-20 13:59 bug#50136: 28.0.50; A problem with rx-let expansion Michael Heerdegen
2021-08-20 14:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-08-20 15:23 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20 17:21   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-08-20 18:45     ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-21 11:45       ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2021-08-21 13:02         ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-23 10:45           ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-08-23 12:38             ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-23 15:20             ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-23 16:59               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-08-23 18:05                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-21  3:21     ` Richard Stallman

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