From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 19:04:31 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <878rzv8obc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87k4bovfd0.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87eea09rwg.fsf@gnus.org> <878s05wxx8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuisras8.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee9wh4kh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <82a9592e-b05a-399c-419e-fcbb3e829b35@gmx.at> <87czpfymhj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <44514af3-09b8-8b6b-c436-cfc5f899142a@gmx.at> <87fsu8pdcp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87lf40nwol.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <875122a9-0ff9-4479-97dc-3860466a2b11@gmx.at> <871r5px383.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y27vk6pd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 9054@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 17 18:16:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGXH-0003qt-VZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 18:16:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGXH-0001nK-0s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:16:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60568) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGR9-00036n-SL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGR9-00033t-Kw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGR9-0005zM-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:10:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9054 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 9054-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9054.163189494322890 (code B ref 9054); Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9054) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2021 16:09:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGQB-0005x8-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:49329) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mRGQ7-0005wZ-3q for 9054@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 905691C0003; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:08:51 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:39:43 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214557 Archived-At: >> Every help command has own unique feedback: >> >> C-h f xyz C-M-c => error: Symbol’s function definition is void: xyz >> C-h v xyz C-M-c => Help buffer: xyz is void as a variable. >> C-h o xyz C-M-c => no output >> C-h w xyz C-M-c => message: xyz is not on any key >> C-h x xyz C-M-c => error: Symbol is not a command: xyz >> C-h a xyz C-M-c => message: No apropos matches for ‘xyz’ > > I wasn't talking about C-h ... I meant the context menu popping up via > mouse-3 when 'context-menu-mode' is enabled. I think whichever text a > user clicks on in an Elisp buffer should pop up something informative. > But with > > (context-menu-mode) > (setq x 3) > (setp x 3) > > right clicking on 'setq' and choosing "Describe symbol" from the menu > displays a help buffer for 'setq'. Doing the same for 'setp' gets me > > down-mouse-3 describe-symbol > > in the echo area. But the context menu just calls describe-symbol, and describe-symbol decides whether there is a documentation for the provided argument. So isn't it the task of describe-symbol to signal an error? Anyway, now if a symbol doesn't exist, then no menu item is added. So no error message is needed.