From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51094: Check if run-with{-idle, }-timer needs to create a timer Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 11:33:27 +0000 Message-ID: <878rz37nug.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87a6jj97u1.fsf@posteo.net> <87a6jjn6af.fsf@tcd.ie> <877denrdn1.fsf@gnus.org> <87y273py3f.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31155"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Basil L. 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Better exit this minibuffer right away. > (run-with-timer 0 nil (lambda () (server-execute-continuation proc))) > > So this change is a no go. Ok, that makes sense. One last question, would it make sense to provide a function like run-with-timer that would work like my patch? -- Philip Kaludercic