From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9?= A. Gomes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51847: Minor Refcard fix. Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:35:51 +0300 Message-ID: <878rxq4unc.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87mtm6x0zi.fsf@gmail.com> <8335nyvkvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsrywz1h.fsf@gmail.com> <83zgq6u56p.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32476"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: 51847@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 14 16:36:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmHYA-0008E4-9B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:36:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmHY8-0008Vr-DF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:36:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmHY2-0008Vh-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39825) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmHY2-0004m8-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mmHY2-0003F9-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:36:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A9?= A. 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For example, "C-- M-d" and "M-- M-d" are >> equivalent, but the latter is much easier to type. The former is said >> to "break the tempo". > > But M-0 has the advantage of being available on text-mode frames, > whereas C-0 requires a GUI frame. That's why the refcards use the > former. I see. I wasn't aware of that. Still, I'd say that "C-u 0 C-k" is saner than "M-0 C-k". WDYT? --=20 Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"