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From: "André A. Gomes" <andremegafone@gmail.com>
To: "John Ankarström" <john@ankarstrom.se>
Cc: 52245@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#52245: Wishlist: cycle input methods
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 20:07:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rwqj46c.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ilvv5i1s.fsf@ankarstrom.se> ("John Ankarström"'s message of "Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:31:59 +0100")

John Ankarström <john@ankarstrom.se> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> The use case that I have in mind is this: even if the user customized
>> the list of input methods to include more than just one, there could
>> be situations where the user needs to use just one input method when
>> typing.  In such situations, it would be good to have a way of
>> toggling, like we do now, instead of cycling through all the other
>> methods.
>>
>> Any reasonable solution to this use case would be welcome.  I'm
>> working with systems which allow you to do something like that, and it
>> frequently annoys me to have to cycle through all the keyboard layouts
>> I defined, just to be able to toggle between US English and some other
>> language.  So I wish that Emacs didn't have such an annoying problem,
>> if possible.
>
> IIRC Windows 10 handles this by implementing the input method list as a
> stack of sorts, so that Win-Space selects an input method similarly to
> how Alt-Tab selects a window. Pressing Win-Space once is a toggle, but
> pressing Win-Space consecutively (while holding Win) cycles through all
> input methods.
>
> Emacs could do something similar. A single C-\ could toggle between the
> two input methods at the top of the list, whereas any number of
> consecutive C-\'s could cycle the list. The implementation would just
> need to check last-command.

Could be a possibility indeed.

Let me raise a concern on this topic.  In Emacs, nil is what we call the
default OS-level IM (or the one dictated by the keyboard firmware).  But
this presents an issue since it both means "the nil input method", which
in itself might be english-us, and that `default-input-method' is
unbound.

I propose thinking about what we have today (no IM cycling, just the
toggle) and see if we need changes before moving on with the more
general case.

Let's think about a simple case - using 2 IMs.  Today you can't easily
go from input method A to B with C-\, unless either A or B is nil.  This
is because `default-input-method' is a buffer-local variable, and it
changes as the user selects IMs.

I suggest that `default-input-method' should be set to "default" and
shouldn't be mutated.  When already in use, fallback to the IM history
ring.  Yes, this requires some re-writing.


--
André A. Gomes
"Free Thought, Free World"





  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-11 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-02 15:30 bug#52245: Wishlist: cycle input methods Tor Kringeland
2021-12-02 15:49 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-02 18:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03  8:42     ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-07 15:57       ` André A. Gomes
2021-12-07 16:30         ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-07 17:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08  9:40             ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-08 13:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 13:44                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-08 14:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 14:51                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-11 14:31             ` John Ankarström
2021-12-11 20:07               ` André A. Gomes [this message]
2021-12-23 18:02             ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-23 18:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 18:45                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-07 15:51     ` André A. Gomes

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