From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56870: company-dabbrev variable documentation Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: <878ro4rl4l.fsf@rfc20.org> References: <878ro74pz5.fsf@rfc20.org> <87y1w7ymiu.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfmd2mqk.fsf@rfc20.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12993"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: YE , uzibalqa , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 56870@debbugs.gnu.org To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 19:10:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeMZ-0003CW-FT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:10:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44206 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeMY-0007Vo-Db for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:10:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeME-0007Uf-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeME-0006mA-6m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:10:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeME-00047l-0M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Matt Armstrong Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 56870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56870.165963298515819 (code B ref 56870); Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:10:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2022 17:09:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeLx-000474-25 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:09:45 -0400 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:34051) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeLu-00046m-4u for 56870@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: matt@rfc20.org) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3F0BC0003; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:09:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rfc20.org; s=gm1; t=1659632975; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=GPQusSi+XYroyvm/SKNyZ5NOFLjFgE6kV41yORTcnf8=; b=QDHmvl9dWqr9+5Y5UQmMO+698lbi7P6IdHawCDLqiEcVJV24IbER2Q6rRUZyhx9qXqrVkG gpaUFI+1gh5jb145C/iRbr+i9XCbwgQG0TacW1b40VgDARW0NYZ21Q+8Wa4nPobyfiSfzS mcNNZaNxNiu9joVnQi+QqEYJm2HTOJQlQA6nkPlVOJRVi8xpWXxzl5jxej76xm77jmGVLN K03NPzqSCbJHvqubsGOAWcyunOuOy+dOriFBoO/jF8XTkoQ5ubytORoYCDZNqhNlOuHoHb I/MrHV4zD7i7L3iq7kRRuHKCg9ygAdJ5eN+WIlQ473UjM4SS/eY7LTC5H7LzHQ== Original-Received: from matt by naz with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeLi-000DBQ-2m; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:09:30 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238773 Archived-At: carlmarcos@tutanota.com writes: > Aug 3, 2022, 18:41 by matt@rfc20.org: > >> I think the maintainers are quite receptive to improvements like >> this. > > I completely disagree.=C2=A0 The experience with maintainers has shown how > unreceptive they often get towards improvements like this.=C2=A0 Lars > thought there isn't anything to fix in Emacs and decided to close this > bug report. I think reasonable people can disagree about what is and is not a problem, is or is not an improvement, or even misunderstand eachother entirely. Sometimes patience and additional explanations are the way to move forward. In this case, I agree with Lars that the company-dabbrev docstring is consistent with Emacs' usual way of writing docstrings. I don't actually see a clear way to improve the one docstring in isolation without it becoming inconsistent with the rest of Emacs. And so, I would expect any improvement here to involve some discussion, since the path forward isn't obvious.