From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52290: 28.0.90; Undocumented generalized variables Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 02:07:00 +0200 Message-ID: <878rnfkel7.fsf@web.de> References: <5d87e4ab47875790076e932351fe8f25@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87ilw3vnp7.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlfu5u4.fsf@gnus.org> <87v8qlkyvw.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8662"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Phil Sainty , 52290@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 02:12:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQHX2-00020f-0Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 23 Aug 2022 02:07:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v8qlkyvw.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 22 Aug 2022 00:36:19 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:b1H8O3EIVfVXsuL8MCEmhrL2OYp55ViBEsDVRMUPbqm7bsGv8bR b75hbJlCqNcKWwJAXJs7fxfI5C9vJVWZCl7FB5uWbe1WSEdz6Pb6M5nWs+VDTFEm/fHFZbk UJ9IMkWSp1sfULAiPcA9BOIb5+PTL6IGkcU1w9uVRc7m3tYcfOKAWQuNWZIfTd2IFWGqvEN wqlgHyPDRbncEDKR9uk4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:uP1procMGW4=:HRaN/Wa6mAkaDBR1SNQT8H Wo0m3BHyUY/0h86sM1936Q+2BNUXcCrkzEZsSocsAsL6IPktF4LDmsRAnYTRFhqnDb8JeKeBx M441COPpDqR0M0UHlnBFXEhSuaCW99zf70DFeHqrjD3b1a1Fk4V1vUjwZD56tl6WhnHHvAJYh +aQN7eSODsMEGTc1TNZ2Ew3Xq4VoM2b4zwWVE5xmURnIeoyZ0oheS2e8UoymUCyvIrwPfEiyc OmFZmCL4MquTSplR1somAmqjvYRor2qGqk8nJbi0TGfSvv7k4hJr8+UdZvms6FDiBYUalimn/ OA6jK8SnN/ezKzNJF67qyEx2m34LVdT7w6X0C2xTTdqxOiJilirlwm11FP+DGsQefF+vIyy+/ 6R2X8ZgFGdI1Mp/JGmz/Bv+Oj+TBpNzq8Zf/Mcii899qCdUwaH2TyrHkwIzTgt3hio60eM0ut nXT/Xd5zOG2EE0ORxemRo564ikw5YfdhdW+J/AxXfQzsNpMEKTXMxDFxkF6X2FbCCh0Bh0F4b LkqCbQDyec4m9QcXXd/xHbZaEKvzwM+hz6Bzkt63hKDcnyrR3pgrQa4+wWkAKsVnMpZAfgdMt NBR1OWxlDef/aluCaxTy59VwmvTxsbStakTzEFLlXri2z8t60c8x2H8MbCQjG8gK/BD54IBxZ rLs4TUqSJ9pkrrqrQaN0kegh8gC7Z/xrV4NyPvK2pobOjhmgzEidS68NxRAlPmuiKIs057tJc KjX5idDlEtstajoUgvcoAgULAbajmfzldNwZ+l7aJFP1FNzR9xBNIkpG/YP+qFpZwQucDUzD X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:240481 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I've now made *Help* mention whether a function is a generalised > variable. +(defun help-fns--generalized-variable (function) + (when (get function 'gv-expander) + (insert (format-message " `%s' is also a " function) + (buttonize "generalized variable" + (lambda (_) (info "(elisp)Generalized Variables"))) + ".\n"))) Can we try to find a better wording? Not the function is a generalized variable, a form that is a call of the function is. This is also a wording that the manual uses. Generalized variables are an abstract concept that not everybody is used to; I think we should be more accurate to avoid to confuse people. Michael.