From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akib Azmain Turja via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:56:24 +0600 Message-ID: <878rkighkn.fsf__25599.8494614445$1668188177$gmane$org@disroot.org> References: <87h8ud92zl.fsf@gmail.com> <874jx4h6sk.fsf@neverwas.me> <875yhifujk.fsf_-_@neverwas.me> <87edw4swdk.fsf@neverwas.me> <878rljxfxs.fsf@neverwas.me> <87k04m4th8.fsf@neverwas.me> <87o7thlepf.fsf@neverwas.me> <87iljovkgo.fsf@disroot.org> <874jv81bn2.fsf@neverwas.me> <87iljoqaor.fsf@disroot.org> <87sfirml89.fsf@neverwas.me> <87sfiq7a3j.fsf@neverwas.me> Reply-To: Akib Azmain Turja Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Adam Porter , 29108@debbugs.gnu.org, bandali@gnu.org, emacs-erc@gnu.org To: "J.P." 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P.'s message of "Thu, 10 Nov 2022 13:50:24 -0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247607 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "J.P." writes: > Adam Porter writes: > >> On 11/9/22 23:28, J.P. wrote: >> >>> Akib Azmain Turja writes: >> >>>> But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU >>>> ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[= 1] >>>> and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2= ]. >> >> Please note: I did not expect to be mentioned in this way here. It's no= t my >> intention to speak poorly of others' software, especially in public. In= the >> Reddit post I made, I tried to be objective and show the problems clearl= y with >> code examples. > > That's certainly the impression I got, and I regret not having said as > much sooner. Sorry you had to burn cycles on a dignified defense. At the > same time, I'm hopeful folks will find the restraint to chalk this up to > a teachable moment and attribute Akib's bit of ambush editorializing > (something I myself have been guilty of over the years) to the angst of > youth or a moment of weakness, both potential engines of productivity > when channeled in a more positive direction. I'm extremely sorry, I didn't actually wanted to give that impression. Please forgive me. > >> And that is merely my opinion, of course, based on the shortcomings I no= ted >> (e.g. the lack of API to update a secret, the undocumented error-handling >> signals, etc). I expect that, were I to use it in my software, I would = end up >> working around these problems and answering users' support questions abo= ut >> them; and since I don't use it myself, either, it doesn't seem like a go= od >> idea to do so. >> >> Nevertheless, it's clearly used by a number of people and third-party pa= ckages >> that integrate with it, so take my opinion of it with a grain of salt. = If it >> seems useful to you, by all means, use it. Your works are awesome, thank you much for the work. > > Thanks for your work on Emacs. =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja, GPG key: 70018CE5819F17A3BBA666AFE74F0EFA922AE7F5 Fediverse: akib@hostux.social Codeberg: akib emailselfdefense.fsf.org | "Nothing can be secure without encryption." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyVTKmrtL6kNBe3FRVTX89U2IYWsFAmNt5AkACgkQVTX89U2I YWua3BAAhyOTkVg3Pwlwjao1gbHbZXrgDQGZaUYBW5dH7ysRV+NtqJokWzg4CkVI FG1jMFyx8Wk6JE65TlCP4cdCOHrTCTUzyYACJ1W4xk+MneFiQi5HaWjq7GLsxLZs Fqter3IIdH+rVkus4zvuzG/oac7k295EU67ksE9VCyOJKhtMvl483l7XLlqQ5ZK1 vxEUi1QiqErnMi6fpxkuAX63iFqTrUTgowRvMm9lPmY+2PVyJ9hs4ceqikuJIfXy AbyJTtb14AStkxWWzF8zK5IYCNMo4cyf2DNcEpJAaMQuGvhookJkEG9JJbbZT+oA BTwpw2hN7QQCEo5VV2h3+LLqsjZKouVA0jIyJT8h2GwwUPjWktipQXXhbWIIr6Hd sMpcyiV4jbQCwtGyTrZyo9UVysil/9kj+zOclX2/zrLbz+ZCxkrXlrVLew6Hh8Ow 75dMOKYgNzZ4NVBU+UjJYDzllaF5z5ngeleudBT/6j+r1M8XkaRmg3fu+7zfpcZl UbAd2IDU0BpuzIgvcGDr+HnsYILcrbrSGxXIob+7PDbYdtlrbKI9vj9nNs39IHVT AFel2miWgtsoeHXhDDbhbglFcQ/EEKStn/srr07FlLmVpf+1Lja6Qie78sVsCwFF xKsgOPHDK4c4sCMIJFj/7jol6WggYe7zyYCjzuRR6QYOhbmpVRw= =z9n4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--