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From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, 64423@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#64423: 29.0.92; save-interprogram-paste-before-kill doesn't prevent streaming large selections
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 09:59:14 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rbtn6kt.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <iery1jtj21x.fsf@janestreet.com> (Spencer Baugh's message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2023 20:50:34 -0400")

Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> writes:

> And yet, we do this today: that's what x-selection-timeout does.  Should
> we remove that functionality?

[...]

> I assume we should not remove that functionality.  So if automatically
> interrupting a selection transfer if the owner takes too long is fine,
> what's the issue with interrupting it if the owner sends too much data?

Because sending a lot of data is *NOT* a bug in the selection owner.
Delaying subsequent user activity for a significant amount of time is.

> Both situations are usually the result of buggy X clients, both
> situations would break Emacs if not handled, both situations are
> standard considerations for robustness in any network protocol.

Blocking user interaction while quitting remains possible is not
``broken'' in my book.

> No, because then they are performing an operation which it makes sense
> might block: pasting data copied from another application.  In that
> situation, they are fine with it.

[...]

> No, there is no problem with other X clients.  It is simply that users
> expect delays when yanking and don't expect delays when killing.
>
> So, Emacs should be able to configure a different x-selection-timeout
> when running the save-interprogram-paste-before-kill logic, to reflect
> the fact that users have these different expectations for yanking and
> killing.  I don't see why this is objectionable.

Taking more than five seconds to yank points to a bug in whichever
client is owning the clipboard selection at the time of the yank.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-02 14:13 bug#64423: 29.0.92; save-interprogram-paste-before-kill doesn't prevent streaming large selections sbaugh
2023-07-03  2:35 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-03 12:46   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-04  0:40     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-04  1:45       ` sbaugh
2023-07-04  3:58         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-04 11:46           ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 13:19             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-04 14:46               ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 16:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:32                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-04 16:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 16:48                   ` sbaugh
2023-07-04 17:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 17:14                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-04 17:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-04 17:35                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-05  0:30                           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-05  2:29                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05  3:51                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-05 11:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-05  0:19                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-05 13:59                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-06  0:12                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-06  0:50                       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-06  1:59                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-07-08 16:39             ` sbaugh
2023-07-08 16:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-08 17:07                 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-08 17:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09  0:39                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-09  6:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-09  6:12                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-09  6:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-12 19:18                             ` sbaugh
2023-07-13  0:32                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-13  4:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-13 16:17                                 ` sbaugh
2023-07-13 18:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-13 22:39                                     ` sbaugh
2023-07-15  8:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-15  8:33                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-15  9:01                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-15  9:35                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-15 17:38                                               ` sbaugh
2023-07-15 19:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-15 21:00                                                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-07-17 16:43 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-08-03 15:53 ` Spencer Baugh

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