From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70696: [PATCH] Autoload `re-disassemble' Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 11:25:21 +0000 Message-ID: <878r0sbgm6.fsf@localhost> References: <87o79pepov.fsf@localhost> <86r0ekldxh.fsf@gnu.org> <04C346A0-F2BC-499C-A7E0-7F526281F0BB@acm.org> <87h6fgbjac.fsf@localhost> <86jzkclavo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22647"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 70696@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 02 13:25:00 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYd-0005aq-CV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 13:24:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYM-0008JR-S9; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYK-0008J7-Tp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:24:40 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYK-0008PA-Fx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:24:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYg-0007Fj-6i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:25:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 11:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70696 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 70696-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70696.171464908327868 (code B ref 70696); Thu, 02 May 2024 11:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70696) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2024 11:24:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYN-0007FQ-3U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:24:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:36885) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s2UYK-0007FI-16 for 70696@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2024 07:24:41 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D895240105 for <70696@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 2 May 2024 13:24:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1714649052; bh=Dqc4PZMzqWGf7ykX5Z1h74KinxvJJ/cGm0/QfvOGbWQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=Y+7T/P3ZAuuThN+Di0tsEWdh4bdsQIhc4Q0hNFh/aeWT7CF8soQxxMcPTUbP8AkZQ BXvxHM7/aBsL68tnIlqt9fCRWMvaysBdsi5m54YZ0AJwo+KXQ97B2A26omPulwSgep WVbXSD4xzPrGT9FL3xe+62M/Grkqaj739EKhHiGoi3dNsyATsrCSDJG+loBpwyhmxM hVNoNI0BV5HGtZPmCkqMEkafT5+hT8yeUo3JbGxEKyyS+6Pg06gbE5jMolEFbq1lJZ mUpkOyXdssmMIwgipOs+Dok70WpYK9Pwljn2KlWb3z4f3uN30/45gaWPNTnplVzAkO vgyw1Raf+KZSg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4VVWmB6FNGz6tvw; Thu, 2 May 2024 13:24:10 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <86jzkclavo.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:284310 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> AFAIK, these kinds of helper functions are usually defined in C code and >> are available without any requires as long as Emacs is compiled with >> right flags. Having to do (require 'disass) was a surprise - I had to >> search Emacs sources. > > I wonder why it was a surprise. I'm quite used to the fact that some > functions and variables are not known until I load their package. You > seem to say that it never happens to you? How come? Emacs has gobs of > stuff that is not autoloaded, including commands and user options. Not in general. I was surprised in the context of regexp-related function. I generally have an expectation that regular expressions are available out of the box, leading to assumption that debug functionality for regular expressions will be available too. That said, I am OK with either decision you make about this. It is just _me_ who were surprised. If others are not, there is no reason to change upstream to meet my intuition. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at