From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: when options)mule)set-coding-system is unselectable Date: 29 Jul 2002 01:40:52 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <877kjfwy1n.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87heixepdh.fsf@jidanni.org> <7263-Sat20Jul2002212329+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <878z3yi5ni.fsf@jidanni.org> <200207280242.g6S2gZk11379@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027881560 29218 127.0.0.1 (28 Jul 2002 18:39:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 18:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Yswo-0007b9-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:39:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17YsxC-0000LD-00; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbox.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.53] helo=mailbox1.ucsd.edu) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Ysvx-00009Z-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:38:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) by mailbox1.ucsd.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6SIc0Dv039064 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:38:00 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:38:00 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-26-47.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 21 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-26-47.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.26.47) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1027881479 33881883 61.227.26.47 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: 127.0.0.1!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 X-MailScanner: Passed Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2963 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2963 Eli> Wrong move. You should use "C-x RET c" before "C-x C-f" instead. Eli> That's because the file is already decoded by the time it is Eli> displayed, and so no tinkering with options>mule>set-coding-system Eli> will make any difference as to how it is displayed. notRMS> OK, this is exactly what the user needs to know at that notRMS> point. Can we somehow arrange to get your above sentences notRMS> told to the user when he goes reaching for that button, notRMS> instead of just finding, of all the buttons, amazingly, notRMS> just the one he thinks he needs has its lights turned off RMS> I agree that this is something important to do. I don't see precisely RMS> where or how Emacs would present that information. In response to RMS> what action or command, when? Well, the simplest thing to do until a better solution is found, is to have its lights turned back on, but a big balloon message pop if the user does select it, with the above "Wrong move..." message inside, suitably rephrased. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780