From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1442: 23.0.60; C-h in allout mode Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: <877i6k996l.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> References: <87myfhrxnt.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <2cd46e7f0811301021o58243225k877c768018840a3f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 1442@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228083042 22872 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2008 22:10:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1442@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Leo To: "ken manheimer" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 23:11:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L6uVz-0003iz-H9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:11:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55674 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6uUp-00029e-5h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6uUc-00025i-Ur for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6uUa-00025C-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48887 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6uUa-000258-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:51883) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L6uUZ-0005KM-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAUMAC3a027769; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:10:12 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mAULt4x8022631; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:55:04 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:55:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1442 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1442-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1442.122808173221285 (code B ref 1442); Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:55:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1442) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Nov 2008 21:48:52 +0000 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAULmnnf021279 for <1442@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:48:51 -0800 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99D1C57E09E; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:48:50 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <2cd46e7f0811301021o58243225k877c768018840a3f@mail.gmail.com> (ken manheimer's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:21:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:10:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22799 Archived-At: "ken manheimer" writes: > i've considered it more than once, particularly since i personally > find the C-h "show all bindings" binding so useful. my reluctance has > been because "h" is such a nice mnemonic for "hide". You already bind "h" to allout-hide-current-subtree in allout-keybindings-list. Why not replace all the control keys with non-control keys? That said, do whatever you feel is reasonable :-)