bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[Chong Yidong]

> Can you believe with emacs23, the first time user doing
> $ emacs
> will get an emacs with the minibuffer inaccessible off the user's
> monitor?!

Nowhere in your bug report do you mention the screen resolution you're
using, nor any other details that will help diagnose the problem.

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[jidanni]

>> Can you believe with emacs23, the first time user doing
>> $ emacs
>> will get an emacs with the minibuffer inaccessible off the user's
>> monitor?!

CY> Nowhere in your bug report do you mention the screen resolution you're
CY> using, nor any other details that will help diagnose the problem.

Sorry. I thought checking at common resolutions like 1024x768 would
reproduce the problem.

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Can you believe with emacs23, the first time user doing
>> $ emacs
>> will get an emacs with the minibuffer inaccessible off the user's
>> monitor?!

> Nowhere in your bug report do you mention the screen resolution you're
> using, nor any other details that will help diagnose the problem.

Actually he did say it, in a Jidanni-way:

   ...a laptop as regular sized as the one Dr. Stallman carries around...

IIUC Richard's Lemote Yeeloong's netbook uses a standard 1024x600
display (same as the one I have on the MSI Wind on which I'm typing
this).


        Stefan

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[jidanni]

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> Can you believe with emacs23, the first time user doing
> $ emacs
> will get an emacs with the minibuffer inaccessible off the user's
> monitor?!

Proof at 1024x768:

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emacs-version "23.0.95.1"

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[Chong Yidong]

Do you still see this problem with latest Emacs from CVS trunk?

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[jidanni]

>>>>> "CY" == Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
CY> Do you still see this problem with latest Emacs from CVS trunk?
Yes, happens still in this version:
--- Changes for emacs-snapshot (emacs-snapshot-common emacs-snapshot-el emacs-snapshot-bin-common emacs-snapshot) ---
emacs-snapshot (1:20091023-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New snapshot.

 -- Romain Francoise <rfrancoise@debian.org>  Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:52:51 +0200

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[jidanni]

>>>>> "SM" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Say did
>> $ emacs
>> extend beyond the screen for you too?
SM> I think so, yes, tho with my window manager (ctwm) I get to resize at
SM> the same time as the frame is created (actually, placed), and with my
SM> default config (small fonts, no menubar, no toolbar) the problem
SM> doesn't appear.
I used xdm->icewm for a user with no dotfiles on 1024x768 to reproduce
the bug, which is surely "the size of the bed emacs ordered for himself
did not include his hat (toolbar), that he likes to wear. That is why
his feet busted through the end boards (and went off the screen)".

bug#3643: minibuffer beyond end of screen in emacs23

[jidanni]

Can you believe with emacs23, the first time user doing
$ emacs
will get an emacs with the minibuffer inaccessible off the user's
monitor?!

That's right, all he needs is a laptop as regular sized as the one Dr. Stallman
carries around, AND he uses X-windows.

Try this test in emacs23
$ xrdb /dev/null
$ seq 222 > /tmp/v
$ emacs -Q /tmp/v # minibuffer inaccessible off the user's monitor, same with -q
$ emacs -Q -eval '(tool-bar-mode 0)' /tmp/v # needed for emacs23

On my monitor, the file is shown with the bottom line being emacs22: 38,
emacs23: 36.

The problem is with emacs23 the minibuffer is inaccessible, beyond the
bottom.

Apparently developers never tested on anything less than long luxurious
screens or used icewm or something.

emacs-version "23.0.94.1"