From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9084: 24.0.50; displaying man pages splits the window and formats the text for the full width of the whole frame rather than for the width of the window the text is displayed in, which is only 1/2 the width of the frame Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:34:10 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <877h7fc7vx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <878vs0d10o.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <8762n4e5gy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E1FEC9C.2090102@gmx.at> <87aacerzv3.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87tyalilpf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87zkkdouje.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87hb6kcx7z.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87hb6jtqua.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311043348 30424 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2011 02:42:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9084@debbugs.gnu.org To: lee Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 19 04:42:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0GO-0000as-2Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:42:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56332 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0GN-00076G-0t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0G4-00075f-Rh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0G3-0007rq-5I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0G2-0007rl-O1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0G2-00054G-2y; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9084 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9084-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9084.131104329119443 (code B ref 9084); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2011 02:41:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0FX-00053Y-Do for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:41:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qj0FU-00053K-Rw for 9084@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:41:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07556E8050; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF66451C2F5; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:41:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87hb6jtqua.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> (lee@yun.yagibdah.de's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:56:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49429 Archived-At: > Then the manpages as emacs formats them are an exception to that. Manpages are an exception because unlike most other static and preformatted texts in other modes, `man' can format texts on the fly taking the width as a parameter. It would be wiser to employ this possibility and fill the text of manpages to the window's width. So it's up to the users to decide what width they want interactively by creating a window with the desired width, or by configuring the window auto-splitting or window layouts. > Does this plan involve functionality to freeze window layouts or to > "frameify" windows? There isn't much point in laying out windows in any > particular way when dynamic window layout continues to automatically > destroy an overall layout. Users shouldn't be expected to specify > window layouts for a potentially huge number of different buffers in > order to always dynamically get the overall window layout they want when > this can be avoided by something as simple (for the user) as > "frameifying" a window. In the proposed designs such parts of the window layout are called "window groups" or "framelettes" that can behave as a separate frame.