From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Antoine Levitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9248: 23.2; Welcome screen Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:39:33 +0200 Message-ID: <877h6qe8x6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <868vr97e2e.fsf@jmfranc-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87bow24lpa.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312652421 23505 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2011 17:40:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) To: 9248@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 06 19:40:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QpkrA-00010P-Hq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:40:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpkr9-0000nw-QT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpkqk-0005vy-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpkqk-0005vu-Jp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qpkqj-0000r9-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:39:49 +0200 Original-Received: from cab14-1-88-177-9-245.fbx.proxad.net ([88.177.9.245]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:39:49 +0200 Original-Received: from antoine.levitt by cab14-1-88-177-9-245.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:39:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cab14-1-88-177-9-245.fbx.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:41:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49935 Archived-At: 06/08/11 17:13, Vijay Lakshminarayanan > jmfranc@jmfranc-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me > (Jean-Marc Fran=e7ois) writes: > >> When starting emacs with a filename as a command line parameter, the >> "Welcome to GNU Emacs" screen is displayed along the buffer that >> displays the content of the said file. I guess you consider it a >> "feature", but please be aware that I find it very annoying. Is it wise >> to set this as the default? >> >> Best, >> JM >> > > [snip] > > FWIW, I agree that this is a bug. I don't encounter the OP's scenario > often (emacsclient FTW) but the times I do, the welcome screen is > extremely annoying. (Typically I encounter said scenario when I need to > sudo edit some file and obviously emacs is the only choice.) I also agree. The splash screen itself is fine (can be quite easily disabled, with pointers on how to it), but it makes less sense to display it when emacs is invoked with a filename (or maybe display it only the first time, or add a very visible direct link to disable it, or something). FWIW, what I do find incredibly obnoxious and patronizing are the safeguards around inhibit-startup-screen and inhibit-startup-echo-area-message. Trying to forbid system administrators to inhibit the splash screen in such a petty way is just wrong. Another grip I have with the splash screen is the "one component of the GNU/Linux operating system." being displayed on linux boxes, and "one component of the GNU operating system." on other OSes. This is wrong on many levels, but there's no use talking about it so I'll just shut up and stop ranting now.