From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9361: 24.0.50; default value of `dired-do-chmod' Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:07:30 -0400 Message-ID: <877h5b2mdp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <03BC028E352D4173B985B3B34DF3193A@us.oracle.com> <87zkiyabea.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <1BDADB23B4434E0C9330F1B010F1E1CE@us.oracle.com> <87bouqlptn.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxea55u8.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <877h5d1o9b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874o0fv085.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316012927 30845 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2011 15:08:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9361@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 17:08:43 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r4s-0007ML-H6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:08:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r4s-0000LX-2B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r4l-0000L2-Sk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r4f-0001TN-Mi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r4f-0001TI-Jt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:08:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r94-00055w-AY; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9361 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 9361-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9361.131601312819526 (code B ref 9361); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9361) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2011 15:12:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r8B-00054s-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.143]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r89-00054j-8B for 9361@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from furball ([128.36.14.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8EF7Ujk015369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:07:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874o0fv085.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:20:58 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.143 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:13:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51151 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > Please don't insert the default value as initial input. > Most of the time, users type short symbolic modes that > add/remove permissions on one user part such as "a=rw" or "go-w". > It would be annoying for them to delete initial input > before typing symbolic modes. Fair enough; deleted. >> STANDARD-VALUE, if non-nil, should be a \"standard\" value or >> list of such values, available via history commands. > > STANDARD-VALUE is non-standard terminology. According to > `read-from-minibuffer' it's named DEFAULT-VALUE. I don't like DEFAULT-VALUE, because it's not the default returned by empty input. But I guess we should be consistent with read-from-minibuffer, so I changed it. We should revisit this issue at some point (in read-from-minibuffer too).