From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19594: using commit identifiers in bug reports Followup-To: gmane.emacs.devel Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: <877fwjudm6.fsf_-___1026.88827687434$1421607139$gmane$org@violet.siamics.net> References: <87ppahvcoh.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <8wwq4nochs.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87r3uvtxly.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83h9vr2k2o.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421607139 4043 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2015 18:52:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19594@debbugs.gnu.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 18 19:52:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YCuxK-0007LW-O5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:51:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCuw5-0004GU-UM; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 01:50:58 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83h9vr2k2o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:42:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98454 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:47:37 +0000 >>>>> Glenn Morris writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote: [Moving to emacs-devel@; please drop Cc: 19594@ as irrelevant when replying.] >>>> As of 88bc8332eb14 (2015-01-07 13:51:41 +0000), url-ftp is >>>> implemented as an alias to url-file, >>> I found this confusing. You mean: "it's always been implemented as >>> an alias, and this remains true as of last week." Not: "last week >>> it was changed to be an alias." >> Actually, by using present tense, I was intending to say that =E2=80=9C= it >> was an alias for the last week=E2=80=99s Git checkout, and I didn=E2=80= =99t bother >> to check when it got changed, or if it was like that right from the >> start.=E2=80=9D > You don't need to mention any commits or dates to convey that. Just > state the facts. While I understand that as commit identifiers are used to refer to both a tree state /and/ a change (diff) to said state, I find the ability to $ git log 88bc8332eb..HEAD -- lisp/url/url-ftp.el just too convenient to disregard. Sure, I=E2=80=99d be just as happy to $ git log bug:19594..HEAD, but I doubt that there=E2=80=99ll be /that/ amount of integration between Git and Debbugs in the foreseeable future, not to mention that I do not always check the reports I file against the latest master. (Usually, I update my Emacs working copy just a few times a month, and only take a brief scan over the Git developments between the latest update and the current master, checking for any /obvious/ signs that the issue was fixed in the meantime.) --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A