From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21171: 25.0.50; Please document (and index) `with-silent-modifications' in Elisp manual Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:36:32 +0200 Message-ID: <877ffeaie7.fsf@gnus.org> References: <71a1f5f8-8295-419b-a5bc-33c36662c2d6@default> <5a5ff08e-0a5f-4ef9-bdd1-5e4afd08b4d1@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462052264 9851 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 21:37:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21171@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 23:37:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZt-00072i-QX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:37:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59810 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZp-00038f-Ts for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54359) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZh-0002y4-0U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZV-0004co-4N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:37:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZV-0004bn-0M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZS-0003xE-Cs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21171 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21171-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21171.146205219715167 (code B ref 21171); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21171) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 21:36:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZ3-0003wZ-8K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awcZ1-0003wR-Bc for 21171@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:36:35 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awcYy-0006za-Ja; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:36:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5a5ff08e-0a5f-4ef9-bdd1-5e4afd08b4d1@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:58:38 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117453 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> Subject line says it all. > > Nope. And please state explicitly everything that it does - > just what it saves and restores, inhibits, etc. Otherwise, > from the simple doc string alone it is not obvious what > code (bindings etc.) this can replace. Yes, a user can > consult the source code, but there is no reason not to > describe what it does in more detail than just "pretending > it does not modify the buffer". There is one use case only for the macro: Adding text properties to the buffer without having the buffer-modified flag go off. I've now rearranged the doc string to make that clearer. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no