From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31623: 27.0; Elisp manual, index entry "; in comment" Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:14:33 -0400 Message-ID: <877enmc846.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a7sica2g.fsf@gmail.com> <524f86f7-78e2-44a5-89fd-5df5fde0dda6@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527639187 30012 195.159.176.226 (30 May 2018 00:13:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 00:13:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 31623@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 30 02:13:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNoje-0007dd-7G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 May 2018 02:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35544 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNoll-0007EX-5G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNole-0007Cz-O4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNola-0004Jw-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNola-0004Jl-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNola-0002wH-38 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 00:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31623 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31623-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31623.152763928311262 (code B ref 31623); Wed, 30 May 2018 00:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31623) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2018 00:14:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54460 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNolH-0002vZ-77 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-it0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:40419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNolF-0002vJ-Sm for 31623@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 May 2018 20:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-it0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j186-v6so21180847ita.5 for <31623@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 May 2018 17:14:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=vo8Q5wVrSwu50qXiO1ByZAlHv2nplQcr7fIAJewhEYI=; b=VUS1tARnFx+w+3sBjukqLDockm7YgMPOE+UmakMF9/zePZJvSOjPBE0ZbpULByVFsF deqbiMZTXnShcmG87ioQkSaWYfQRPhXQOPVzTLkB2dPo0EDuzkb3HHM7QJ42JNfBULaX RW9NZoYP67T3QiQFySrwhDSZQsjCisFWD9/QMKtRJbcjNWVaQNCrCb8iZqw34618flP2 z8Rp8LRamF58hNqueCnMvUqm9OqR2jS+dTiQSv+sCZoSnQFuHQQqX+wVmndGEiN3gVxC GSu86kopXW4ZsWJtEmoqR5SNzP91p1kz7TNpKqU6q9lrFAYrpIl5GSXC1YEAYBnSw4PP aITw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=vo8Q5wVrSwu50qXiO1ByZAlHv2nplQcr7fIAJewhEYI=; b=WPLiTs4YS1cES/+5wonqA7Vb7EzVJT5NdG7uAEOh3F0dr82jlUFrUvHsHh0S5LQTk2 z7cKLmmWXaHkDi5sN3WdIUrdOYe/SPrx0tvStGXh36cRUhf6D4FQnALaL5P/x9MNsOHS tBldFc4cRn7J92Dq+4WC7dE2Jbp+nQOwYWs+Wx22H2nsBMkqStuBk9UZMxU6b+QMTM+l gkshugQwUaroeVkc/VjZKjuAIfGaZqKN4c+ZaQA/YJGDPCcHAm5Lczs1sBQ7zYR8BAOF 0qRZ1ArobEcqdwCGg2I/wiLbJsszUmM4QiYcNfqhu73fCw4Eu6NL/4dEdUqJRd+/9QDp bb8w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweT4bRAtwD449/2BTGsPRa9GAHd+MiW8XO7bjC51ixDDNQbmB// z+e2CmDC/K9Jl/BWSqiGi/yzEQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKK/37u3gxZI5AK+J4g8AXZl0g/GZ4r8SSinoVcFPThzFk9VdU3C6x4eL18PuYsrZ/tn3kTbBw== X-Received: by 2002:a24:b106:: with SMTP id o6-v6mr1006391itf.15.1527639276215; Tue, 29 May 2018 17:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zebian (cbl-45-2-119-34.yyz.frontiernetworks.ca. [45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x189-v6sm8068968ite.2.2018.05.29.17.14.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 29 May 2018 17:14:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <524f86f7-78e2-44a5-89fd-5df5fde0dda6@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 29 May 2018 16:47:07 -0700 (PDT)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146724 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > OK, if you say so. ;-) I was thinking more about "in" > meaning after `comment-start'. But yes, I guess that's > what was intended. > > If that's the intention then I think it might be clearer > if the index entry were "; outside a comment" or maybe > "; not in a comment". A later sentence in `(elisp) Comments' has: The Lisp reader discards comments; they do not become part of the Lisp objects which represent the program within the Lisp system. The discarded comment includes the leading ";", so I don't think it makes sense to treat the comment starter as being outside the comment. > In any case, that statement is not really true: a semicolon > does not always start a comment in Lisp whenever it is not > within a string or a character constant. There is also the > case of it being escaped in a symbol name. E.g., > > (setq a\;b 42) > > (Dunno whether there are additional cases - perhaps not.) I think not. So add "unescaped"? In Lisp, an unescaped semicolon (`;') starts a comment if it is not within a string or character constant.