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Jackson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28596: 26.0.60; Gnus gets into an ambiguous plugged/unplugged state that prevents retrieval of news Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:33:32 -0400 Message-ID: <877em0ii43.fsf@moondust.localdomain> References: <87k20mq0uq.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83tvzl98fe.fsf@gnu.org> <87efqppm4p.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bmlt76uw.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <831skd110u.fsf@gnu.org> <87wp22xvn8.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83bmjextpg.fsf@gnu.org> <87vagrj388.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <871sjfdaql.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain> <87tvwbgino.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83608qhl71.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8sahl3l.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83wp16g2ky.fsf@gnu.org> <878tdmxue7.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83k1qdjzei.fsf@gnu.org> <87woud188j.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83a7r7ndw7.fsf@gnu.org> <8736wy7uai.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87y3eq6f8u.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <87tvpe6e2x.fsf@moondust.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531409762 6479 195.159.176.226 (12 Jul 2018 15:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:36:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, larsi@gnus.org, 28596@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 12 17:35:58 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fdddI-0001U5-OB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 17:35:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fddfP-0001mE-Q0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38405) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fddbZ-0007IS-JM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fddbW-0001fM-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fddbW-0001en-Ca for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fddbW-0004ek-0P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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Jackson's message of "Wed, 04 Jul 2018 14:38:46 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:148467 Archived-At: At 14:38 -0400 on Wednesday 2018-07-04, N. Jackson wrote: > >>> At 19:50 +0300 on Wednesday 2018-07-04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> >>>> Is it possible for you to try the branch? I think it's >>>> important to know whether this problem still exists on the >>>> release branch. > I have really built the emacs-26 branch [1] this time! > > As promised, I will use it from now on as my every-day Emacs and > report back here if I see the bug again. > > [1] Repository revision: 0dce5e59206db7bd0b9cd43ae712272105300ae4 Yes, the problem still exists. Gnus got into the confused plugged/unplugged state again this morning. FWIW: M-x emacs-uptime RET ==> 5 days, 0 hours, 26 minutes, 55 seconds Memory information: ((conses 16 1153669 478417) (symbols 48 121724 355) (miscs 40 24187 11415) (strings 32 308736 20050) (string-bytes 1 12884595) (vectors 16 74179) (vector-slots 8 2504362 73640) (floats 8 2016 1881) (intervals 56 41378 48502) (buffers 992 323)) After Gnus got into the confused state and after trying for several minutes to get it back to it's senses, I exited Gnus (but not Emacs) and restarted Gnus (with M-x gnus RET) and it was still in it's stuck state and it printed these messages as it started: 20180712T104052.549> Reading /home/nlj/.newsrc.eld... 20180712T104052.735> Opening nnfolder server on archive... 20180712T104052.736> Opening nnfolder server on archive...done 20180712T104052.737> Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net... 20180712T104132.771> Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net...failed: >>> (error nntp.olduse.net/nntp Name or service not known) 20180712T104132.772> Opening nntp server on nntp.aioe.org... 20180712T104212.811> Opening nntp server on nntp.aioe.org...done 20180712T104212.811> Opening nntp server on dusty... 20180712T104252.851> Opening nntp server on dusty...failed: >>> (error news.gmane.org/nntp Name or service not known) 20180712T104252.852> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org... 20180712T104332.887> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done 20180712T104332.887> Opening nnimap server on Local Dovecot Mailstore... 20180712T104332.888> Opening connection to localhost via tls... 20180712T104333.079> Opening connection to localhost...done 20180712T104333.080> Opening nnimap server on Local Dovecot Mailstore...done 20180712T104333.144> No new newsgroups 20180712T104333.161> Checking new news... 20180712T104333.164> Reading active file via nnnil... 20180712T104333.164> Reading active file via nnnil... 20180712T104333.164> Reading active file via nnnil...done 20180712T104333.164> Reading active file from nntp.olduse.net via nntp... 20180712T104333.164> Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net... 20180712T104333.165> Server nntp+nntp.olduse.net previously determined to be down; not retrying 20180712T104333.165> Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net...failed: >>> (error news.gmane.org/nntp Name or service not known) 20180712T104333.192> Opening nntp server on nntp.aioe.org... 20180712T104333.193> Opening nntp server on nntp.aioe.org...done 20180712T104333.194> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org... 20180712T104333.195> Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done 20180712T104333.201> nnimap read 0k from localhost 20180712T104333.408> Reading active file from archive via nnfolder... 20180712T104333.409> Opening nnfolder server on archive... 20180712T104333.410> Opening nnfolder server on archive...done 20180712T104333.410> Reading active file from archive via nnfolder... 20180712T104333.411> Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done 20180712T104333.412> Reading active file via nnfolder... 20180712T104333.412> Opening nnfolder server... 20180712T104333.413> Opening nnfolder server...done 20180712T104333.440> Reading incoming mail from file... 20180712T104333.441> nnfolder: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done 20180712T104333.442> Reading active file via nnfolder... 20180712T104333.443> Reading active file via nnfolder...done 20180712T104333.443> Reading active file via nndraft... 20180712T104333.446> Reading active file via nndraft... 20180712T104333.447> Reading active file via nndraft...done 20180712T104333.448> Checking new news...done Warning: Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net...failed: >>> (error news.gmane.org/nntp Name or service not known); Server nntp+nntp.olduse.net previously determined to be down; not retrying; Opening nntp server on dusty...failed: >>> (error news.gmane.org/nntp Name or service not known); Opening nntp server on nntp.olduse.net...failed: >>> (error nntp.olduse.net/nntp Name or service not known) The errors for olduse.net happen all the time (I suspect the site has gone away), so I assume they are unrelated, but the second message at 20180712T104333.165 seems odd: it appears to suggest that it was checking olduse.net and gmane.org failed. Or maybe I'm just not reading that right. [The server I have set up with the name of "dusty" is on gmane, so the messages about gmane not being known when checking dusty do make sense.] I then exited Gnus and exited Emacs, restarted Emacs, restarted Gnus and everything was back to working as normal.