From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Markus Triska Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33921: 27.0.50; Default height is inconsistently - and apparently also incorrectly - documented Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <877efrxrpe.fsf@metalevel.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546163775 13395 195.159.176.226 (30 Dec 2018 09:56:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 09:56:15 +0000 (UTC) To: 33921@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 10:56:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXpI-0003K7-3x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:56:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43646 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXrP-000397-07 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58213) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXrF-00038E-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:58:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXr9-0004Eu-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:58:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39370) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXr8-0004DV-7V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:58:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXr8-0003Af-1F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 09:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 33921 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.154616385212145 (code B ref -1); Sun, 30 Dec 2018 09:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2018 09:57:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41839 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqd-00039o-Sy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqc-00039h-0B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:31 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:38400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqb-0003ZP-KY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58095) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqa-00033v-K6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqV-0003MM-JK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:28 -0500 Original-Received: from metalevel.at ([78.46.218.83]:42120) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdXqT-0003I5-RV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 04:57:23 -0500 Original-Received: from vbox.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008CCA0339 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:57:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by vbox.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4EAE144EF1; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:57:17 +0100 (CET) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:154012 Archived-At: In the Emacs man page, we find for the "-g" (--geometry) option: The width and height are specified in characters; the default is 80 by 24. In the Emacs info page ("C.8 Options for Window Size and Position"), we find a different default height: The default frame width is 80 characters and the default height is 40 lines. However, when I start Emacs via "$ emacs -Q", I actually get a height that is neither 24 nor 40, no matter how I count it: On a recent Debian install with X toolkit, I get an initial window that comprises exactly 28 lines, and if I include the mode line and echo area, then the frame height is 30, excluding the tool bar, menu bar and title bar. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2018-12-30 built on stretch Repository revision: b0e6ecfc33077fb2dce904d315c8ef24e3649c9b Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11604000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) Recent messages: Loading /home/mt/prolog.el (source)...done Loading /home/mt/public_html/ediprolog/ediprolog.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Use +,-,0 for further adjustment [2 times] Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-gif=no --with-tiff=no' Configured features: XPM JPEG PNG SOUND NOTIFY INOTIFY GNUTLS FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 XDBE XIM THREADS GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: text-scale-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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