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Contovounesios wrote: >> "Basil L. Contovounesios" writes: >> >>> Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: >>> >>>> From my point of view it's not that much about the docu but about the= design. >>>> >>>> Users should not be forced to add an extra argument to prevent auto-fi= ll when it >>>> is about a newline. >>> Users who do not want auto-filling should not enable auto-fill-mode, >>> either directly or by setting auto-fill-function. >> Alternatively, users who want auto-fill-mode to ignore newlines can do >> the following: >> >> (aset auto-fill-chars ?\C-j nil) >> >> This is documented under (info "(elisp) Commands for Insertion") and >> (info "(elisp) Auto Filling"). >> > Okay, commonly there many ways in Emacs to work around an issue, which is > great. But that doesn't solve it at source. By its semantic newline is un= related > to filling, from there that behavior is not to expect, idiosyncratic. Unless you or someone else has a concrete proposal for how to fix said idiosyncratic behaviour in a backward-compatible way, I think that ship has sailed. --=20 Basil