From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44509: 28.0.50; Error querying with new gnus-search and notmuch Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 16:29:41 -0800 Message-ID: <877dqrto22.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87imag7kkh.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <87361kd1sg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9eg7ec3.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <874km0bgat.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87blg8729u.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <875z6cxyue.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <877dqrhjea.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87eekzwxuh.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <87wnyremk5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87361fva01.fsf@gnus.jao.io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7822"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 44509@debbugs.gnu.org To: jao Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 12 01:30:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0VO-0001vJ-6d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 01:30:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0VM-0003NR-N7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:30:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52774) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0V2-0003Mt-SU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0V0-0001T2-U5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0V0-0008Re-QU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 00:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44509 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 44509-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44509.160514099332421 (code B ref 44509); Thu, 12 Nov 2020 00:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 44509) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 00:29:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43225 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0Uq-0008Qr-LT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:29:52 -0500 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:56390 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kd0Uo-0008Qe-2U for 44509@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:29:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (24-113-150-48.wavecable.com [24.113.150.48]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08CCBFA16E; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 00:29:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1605140984; bh=rI/C4bwj98TUeHa7kVCZnS2WJso6cFyAmUz5pLuGvJc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RdeESTw3LxMIn/Q6XnyUu87hg1fVxvpKUMo/4uTZ9lxLKPZsdAZW7Ak//okq3eOVD LvTBVcNXl7f5qx8oJPPLOykgu56D+/Z0dTj3Rcu92+00usyEzj+ShVsBjH9x2cq61n WhNZ01qEKFqCXrGTGxNbV9aARmAEEx0UPm944L1Y= In-Reply-To: <87361fva01.fsf@gnus.jao.io> (jao's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:50:22 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:193141 Archived-At: jao writes: > On Wed, Nov 11 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > > [...] > >> I see, I had your problem backwards. My guess is that no one has tried >> to do this before, so the issue has never come up. >> >> BTW, while there's no longer a "gmane" search engine, it would be nice >> to provide an engine for searching other nntp servers. In your case >> you're running it locally, but do you know if a remote leafnode server >> handles any sort of search functionality? (I might as well google this >> myself.) > > No, i don't think leafnode does anything of the sort (it's old, from > simpler times, and kind of opinionated on a minimal feature set). That's what my googling indicated, too :) [...] >> For nnimap, it's `nnimap-find-article-by-message-id'. > > Well, that function is contacting back the imap server and asking for a > (simple) search, so it's going to be very roundabout even if it finally > works (i cannot manage to make it work for me, although i'm surely doing > something wrong and its implementation not trivial). Right, that's what I meant by the search probably negating any speedups you'd get from using notmuch. > fst-xapian doesn't look that bad, after all (actually, i was confusing > it with solr or elastic which need independent servers and are too > heavyweight for me.) :) I think it's great! You make sure a package is installed, then add a single line to your dovecot config, then never think about it again. Eric