From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11309: 24.1.50; Case problems with [:upper:] and Cyrillic, Greek Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:26:33 +0100 Message-ID: <877dpo9xee.fsf@gnus.org> References: <5D75AE9F-F1F7-4A7E-A135-0071E03369AA@acm.org> <70DAA5B7-B336-4E8E-A342-05BD46BC0472@acm.org> <83ft4g70ci.fsf@gnu.org> <65B5A1CC-9D3D-495B-951D-733C9C0B355E@acm.org> <83zh2o5itq.fsf@gnu.org> <28B85957-B8DB-431D-A120-F17D8AE4693F@acm.org> <83lfe54uey.fsf@gnu.org> <87360dlkt8.fsf@gnus.org> <2A7536AB-B160-4005-AE13-CBF60A73E370@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3858"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: kehoea@parhasard.net, 11309@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 11 16:40:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knkWk-0000rc-71 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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The Swiss prefer not using =C3=9F at > all and write ss instead, but that doesn't affect the case-conversion > rules. I thought I vaguely remembered somebody somewhere making =E1=BA=9E a standa= rd upcase, but it seems I remembered wrong. They only say that it's "also possible": "According to the council=E2=80=99s 2017 spelling manual: When writing the uppercase [of =C3=9F], write SS. It=E2=80=99s also possible to use the uppe= rcase =E1=BA=9E. Example: Stra=C3=9Fe =E2=80=94 STRASSE =E2=80=94 STRA=E1=BA=9EE" --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no