From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Landscheidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53070: 27.2; Message "Server closed connection" not verbose enough Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:12:09 +0000 Organization: http://www.tim-landscheidt.de/ Message-ID: <877dbbkxfq.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> References: <87o84nhq0j.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9057"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: 53070@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 07 23:13:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xU0-00028g-M8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 23:13:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46786 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xTz-0002ra-Mr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:13:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xTr-0002rN-RY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xTq-0004l5-7W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xTp-0005zt-Pk; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:13:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tim Landscheidt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53070 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus Original-Received: via spool by 53070-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53070.164159353222982 (code B ref 53070); Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53070) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2022 22:12:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xT2-0005yc-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:12:12 -0500 Original-Received: from andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de ([116.203.78.250]:37942) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xT1-0005yU-MR for 53070@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 17:12:12 -0500 Original-Received: from dslb-002-207-123-127.002.207.pools.vodafone-ip.de ([2.207.123.127]:45186 helo=vagabond) by andalucia.tim-landscheidt.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1n5xSz-0005lZ-V6; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 22:12:10 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87fspza5hl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:13:42 -0800") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223811 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > [=E2=80=A6] >> (Side note: If such a hiccup happens, it sometimes appears >> that the *Group* buffer is not updated with regard to number >> of unread messages per group, etc. for /other/ servers that >> were successfully contacted. I don't know if Gnus is more >> aggressive than it needs to be here; if it encounters an er- >> ror when trying to contact a POP3 server, it will just ask >> nicely and continue on.) > How recent is your Emacs? In 032969e8 (end of October) I put in a patch > which switched NNTP failures from raising an error -- which interrupted > the whole update process -- to simply reporting the failure. What you > describe sounds like the behavior I'd observed before making that > change. 27.2; I agree with your reasoning and look forward to your patch trickling down to Fedora :-).