From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14807: 24.3; Enhancement request: let options in customize group buffers to start out visible Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 15:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: <877d6th594.fsf@gnus.org> References: <51D882ED.8070205@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36773"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 14807@debbugs.gnu.org To: Raffaele Ricciardi Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 10 15:45:43 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noQBK-0009F4-E6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 15:45:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noQBJ-0005Tj-6v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59998) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noQAg-0005Ql-Jd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1noQAg-0004yP-AK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noQAg-0000Av-8A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 13:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14807 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 14807-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14807.1652190260584 (code B ref 14807); Tue, 10 May 2022 13:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14807) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2022 13:44:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noQ9z-00009L-SS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noQ9x-000092-R6 for 14807@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2022 09:44:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T2Gfg4u8tqUOoZgpw7bDDbkJMCrNQzKDvR69wreTCpY=; b=U1thyNLPnoDFfXwX3fS0WeRf+E sM42NFO5ErxknwJPnEiaHDMqDzcXfEG3i7eZ8YXnWXcIjrg6FzsRaXJ3Fb7lsQXsxd01rp0xM3Be7 SNP6pE1GS36T/Q5xukBaS4SZSd/IKUiMP6ouXg8S4UPzEapci0gOM/YCpFSIIl6lmCXw=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noQ9p-00045j-F0; Tue, 10 May 2022 15:44:11 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Don Juan's Reckless Daughter_: "Jericho" In-Reply-To: <51D882ED.8070205@gmail.com> (Raffaele Ricciardi's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:49:49 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:231842 Archived-At: Raffaele Ricciardi writes: > "*** Options in customize group buffers start out hidden if not > customized. Use the arrow to the left of the option name to toggle > visibility." > > Would it be possible to make such behaviour customizable for users > that would prefer the old behaviour? The old behaviour let users > check quickly what the behaviour of a package was supposed to be, > according to the value of its various options. The new behaviour > requires users to click on each option to get a glimpse of what to > expect from a mode. My guess is that the new behaviour aims to lessen > the possibility of accidental edits, but that is not an issue with > more experienced users. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) Many customization groups are very large, and some of the widgets take up a lot of space. So in my opinion, a user option like this wouldn't be used by a lot of people, so it's not worth adding, and I'm therefore closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no