From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 15:31:02 +0000 Message-ID: <877cumxufd.fsf@localhost> References: <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com> <835ya6onmz.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz4exw9c.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21913"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Daniel Mendler , Eli Zaretskii , 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 08 17:40:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plAg3-0005RJ-I2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 17:40:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfV-0000eE-Qh; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfS-0000dE-R3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfS-0002pJ-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plAUv-00071p-N3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:29:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 15:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62720 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62720-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62720.168096773027000 (code B ref 62720); Sat, 08 Apr 2023 15:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62720) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2023 15:28:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plAUj-00071O-M3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:28:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:36803) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plAUi-00071A-5c for 62720@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:28:48 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4FBB2400A3 for <62720@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 17:28:42 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1680967722; bh=1Fxr550C9+uNxPSRY4bnD2NiAUypT98d8mlAR3GH5wU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=TJrUHCjB4ISBNQOPS5pk7JKhqZtkSLdy8/K0z4rWL8wLfVbNuAm7zNF5JJmBDMdTL yHklOa5t+7pxBZtjCqup79VZZXYEGeBZ7+mZNJIb79IeRVMcksPgcefweck4zt7xvs 3fkBhGva8Wo+JvJPLrSfs77RpJ/6fbKbYN6j5zAoLMqikagDoCdi5wfIfHLEf9OkWI 2DzSAcGyt8eFqKgynDUClPp+0Bd+1cgGSyX7hE2Bwn+rvDpoEoiqP+1Anj20n5+MXZ Z/r7Qo0uGuG0tP1WJkEsp44xMEZeh2nKDQfN6U6r5TTbPvJQqmeLqmE0mDNBlXd+vR OPyiN0qPCWSSg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PtzfK2vk9z9rxL; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 17:28:41 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259481 Archived-At: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: >> I think that adding this into compat.el could be also justified. >> With compat.el being ELPA dependency. > > But compat.el is not :core right? So Eglot cannot depend on it. Several packages in :core do depend on compat. The idea is to use (require 'compat nil 'noerror), which does nothing in core, but enables forward-compatibility features on ELPA. See https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/compat.html#Usage > Also I think that's a bit beyond the purpose of compat, though > I don't oppose it. I really think package.el, like other package > managers, should learn to update itself. It should be a :core > ELPA package itself. But then that also requires this bug to > be fixed. I agree that it is slightly out of scope of compat. But this particular problem appears to be important enough as exception. --=20 Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at