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Sun, 06 Aug 2023 04:54:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zg3lmf1v.fsf@whxvd.name> (Sebastian Miele's message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2023 18:42:09 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bq8VqIbNPQiMeKa9CUheoDe6D+v0n6mWuXso4hVr+si0D+q90Rv WumUNNnKxeakCsy0RgrYK/ioPHvA+fjcsouF87/wjovR5UK+pkfJLzjpVlWFINZYs4EJcPx OM7iLnetzROd2/L7z2bkiYFXtgeqmjPJX6OXhfl3o7LKv3wAIuypZUluS66aVTpqli0e/Yn m9iFmmlDZvabmrvqmjgPQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:TO+jhkcDo04=;RvUwZ9h/PjRtJ3bKL1u69H3Huoz 9JSB+O6TbPAk6kg9FeWn4Ittxlm7sIoOUntq6d9M2MqEr3r5txNHfUxIn71C6jqbQuYVhiPkz +wKujpoWOa3/QW78qV/aSkvyOIDE+xfXe8AQBcOBKlLSx1VXXP3V11FwWlkszHTLhHw5P9/7H kJ6/ghXQ9f6Zaa44s1S4/ROH4l8pZSpgedl1uZkHAZavhFA45ujvl3x+UlXTp+eRLmsa2pcnr Gx5WvebFjcUSy5X5QWUzjCCLGUArbHWe8vVy3LUHpNabWblmJ+YhvWnMQCykbNe43giC9zOPI iAkJ9+AY5exKjXWSOVXG1U75FzIy8NwvlF8YPErd2FSrOi8njLJOjiU0jKLWgmQI5ByGm8SOa tPZ/6dUC4fGUK8HCAYgAorox4u/x5rdbwdeCTKCbhFsFcTICHdcp2wSNbfHK7ohjJmFoG6mZ5 xV4TIYVQMmMkPb5WyS0uPko8sxZpkSMFJyf3NQT+wj/hYlXs0AAnIEkMw6BbbtpMTPYViIYCH 9pBpaze5IGXavC3jR3xHGjybRXVTAcuAdrkZ5a++5rZUVlvD94ZrZc3/g6NplqxmC+Cmp+m+8 4lTXMiGkJ+lxL6+TzX+/ByJAysMkItrLR7/2608leef5qZjqae2SMCZ0XyRxto9yQL8WpriQd dJYR2ebefxH0dZUwSAUAn3qbAVQQ+4x8RF/rkNvVkHBPVQWBPTaDDqcPfLGdirQyQqEeYvfn7 oPw8guNCypIsgUd2q38pD1atOs4BqlKj7werAcbyiI9n3z71ndOWE8fYwuoRw8ml+Se1Z99r X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:266828 Archived-At: Sebastian Miele writes: > 2c18969c810f338d73beda592ee5af7103132e97 > Author: Stefan Monnier > AuthorDate: Thu Mar 2 02:08:08 2017 -0500 > > * lisp/help-fns.el (describe-variable): Use cl-print for the value > [...] > > (describe-variable 'ispell-dictionary-alist) > > The display of the value in my machine contains, e.g., "(nil #1# #2# #3# > t #4# nil utf-8)". > [...] > I do not see the reason for hard-coding =E2=80=98print-circle=E2=80=99 to= t in > =E2=80=98describe-variable=E2=80=99. I think I agree. Both values might be the optimum in different cases. But most users are probably never interested in shared structures, some will even be confused. And those that are interested also know how to print using print-circle enabled themselves. Stefan, would it be ok to turn off `print-circle' for `describe-variable' again, or would this break something in the new code? TIA, Michael.