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From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:47:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A8388B0E-7F07-48EC-89E7-BD0D7B1FC061@gmail.com> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:04:58 +0100")

Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com> writes:

> 29 okt. 2023 kl. 22.53 skrev Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>:
>
>> As far as I know, there is no practical use for a test case to depend on
>> another test case in any language I worked with as a test case provides
>> no reusable component.  On the other hand, there are alternatives that
>> makes more sense to do what they (e.g. lsp-mode) are doing.  Again, IMHO
>> I think it makes sense for ERT not to support it or to even forbid it.
>> Doing this also avoids such misleading error message I was reporting,
>> which got triggered depending on the loading sequence which may make
>> test suites flaky (as the loading sequence is not deterministic).
>
> I don't think ERT can forbid anyone from loading in the same .el file multiple times because it's none of its business. Or did you have something else in mind?
>

It's not that loading the same .el multiple times that caused this
error, but loading a module with `ert-deftest' and both .el modules are
passed to batch ert processing which is common practice.  But see below.

> All in all, I'm not sure there is anything that we can do in Emacs right now that would help, but if you have any concrete suggestions, do tell.
>

I understand if upstream don't want to complicate `require' logic too
much.  However I wonder whether it's OK to add warning if a required
module has `ert-deftest' in it, so that it can help people identify that
a `Test "foo" redefined' error is due to requiring other module instead
of an actual duplicated test name.  How does this sound?

-- 
Xiyue Deng





  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-30 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-27 20:59 bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests reports test redefined depending on loading sequence Xiyue Deng
2023-10-28  6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28  9:39   ` bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report " Xiyue Deng
2023-10-28  9:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 11:14       ` Xiyue Deng
2023-10-28 11:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 11:50           ` Xiyue Deng
2023-10-28 12:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 12:46               ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-10-28 21:19                 ` Xiyue Deng
2023-10-29 12:09                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-10-29 21:53                     ` Xiyue Deng
2023-10-30 12:04                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-10-30 20:47                         ` Xiyue Deng [this message]
2023-11-02 17:17                           ` Xiyue Deng
2023-11-02 18:56                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-11-02 22:00                               ` Xiyue Deng
2023-11-03 17:14                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-11-03 17:56                                   ` Xiyue Deng
2023-11-04  8:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 19:41               ` Xiyue Deng

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