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This > then makes it natural to explain the behavior in the other cases, > because the active-region one is clearly conditional, and thus not the > general case. > > By contrast, your text starts with the description of behavior that > has no conditions, and thus is perceived as the complete and > exhaustive. Then the next sentence is "out of the blue" because the > reader does not expect any such additions, being just told what the > command does, period. Yes, I know what you mean about that sentence coming out of the blue. But as Dmitry says, the behaviour when the region is active is a bonus feature, not really what the command is about. Do you think maybe this is better: Delete all hunks other than the current hunk. As a special case, when called interactively with an active region ... -- Sean Whitton