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* they never thought I would query-replace an uppercase
@ 2002-10-28 22:01 Dan Jacobson
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-10-28 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


In todays episode a hasty Dan is again mislead by the documentation,
whereupon he stumbles upon something that needs to be documented.  All
is well in the end though.

The help for query-replace-regexp just says: "Preserves case in each
replacement if `case-replace' and `case-fold-search' are non-nil and
REGEXP has no uppercase letters."

Therefore, the user in a rush to replace a certain capital letter
thinks: Oh great, I was hoping to match only "S" and not "s", but this
possibility was apparently overlooked [by guess who].  Same apparently
with plain query-replace.

(dired-do-query-replace-regexp "S" "000") is what I was poking around
with.  Wanna know something really funny?  That command pooped out
with "replaced 0 occurrences" resting on the first match [a little
"s"].  I had to use little "s" to get the usual behavior.
echo s>file1
echo S>file2
LC_ALL=C emacs --no-site-file -q .
m m [mark all files]
(dired-do-query-replace-regexp "S" "000")
see what I mean.

By the way, I did "man ascii" to get the octal code for S, but it
seems I just couldn't figure out how to fool query-replace-regexp with
it.

Back to the first problem: from the Info page we see that we should
try setting case-fold-search to nil.  [We don't see such details
elsewhere, *Help* just sends us in my initial direction.] Didn't help:
perhaps because this becomes a local "t" variable in each new buffer
dired visits.

So you might mention on the dired-do-query-replace-regexp Help blurb
to do (set-default 'case-fold-search nil), which apparently has got me
rolling again.
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* Re: they never thought I would query-replace an uppercase
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@ 2002-10-30 22:37   ` Dan Jacobson
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-10-30 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


DJ>     The help for query-replace-regexp just says: "Preserves case in each
DJ>     replacement if `case-replace' and `case-fold-search' are non-nil and
DJ>     REGEXP has no uppercase letters."

DJ>     Therefore, the user in a rush to replace a certain capital letter
DJ>     thinks: Oh great, I was hoping to match only "S" and not "s", but this
DJ>     possibility was apparently overlooked [by guess who].

RMS> I don't understand, sorry.  What is "this possibility"?
RMS> The way to match only S is to turn off case-fold-search.

Mainly the hurried user does describe-function query-replace-regexp,
and the only thing he sees semi-relevant to matching his S is that
sentence.  Therefore add a sentence there advertising case-replace's
merits.

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* Re: they never thought I would query-replace an uppercase
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@ 2002-11-03 21:10       ` Dan Jacobson
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2002-11-03 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)


>>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

RMS> Do you think this is clear?
RMS> Matching is independent of case if `case-fold-search' is non-nil and
RMS> REGEXP has no uppercase letters.  Replacement transfers the case
RMS> pattern of the old text to the new text, if `case-replace' and
RMS> `case-fold-search' are non-nil and REGEXP has no uppercase letters.
RMS> \(Transferring the case pattern means that if the old text matched is
RMS> all caps, or capitalized, then its replacement is upcased or
RMS> capitalized.)

Perhaps.  However I pack a Limited Edition brain, so am not sure.
Another approach would be to just describe each affecting variable.
OK, over and out on this subject.
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