From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14914: bug#15799: 24.3.50; dired-hide-details-mode: Provide default key binding Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:01:21 +0530 Message-ID: <8761s6x9yu.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87fvrc8u5y.fsf@gmail.com> <51c48394-b3ae-4403-bad7-00f62f85cfb9@default> <8b3b095a-02b4-4e25-87b4-3db926df40e3@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383723142 11972 80.91.229.3 (6 Nov 2013 07:32:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 07:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14914@debbugs.gnu.org, 15799@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 06 08:32:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdxbB-0006LE-OQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:32:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60143 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdxbA-0006PJ-Vk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:32:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdxb0-0006NQ-Lx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:32:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdxat-0005AR-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:32:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdxat-0005AJ-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vdxas-0004Sg-Gc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:32:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14914 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14914-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14914.138372306517080 (code B ref 14914); Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14914) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2013 07:31:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36596 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdxZu-0004RH-O0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com ([209.85.160.52]:64388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdxZo-0004QX-0S; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 02:30:57 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id rr4so2147337pbb.25 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:30:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=H4RAoA1eCKnap8C/4qI5yBEKVnAdr7dtI1wG1KoWdWw=; b=0BDPUwT9X2X9ei0b8sReemUG18+jju0hOv47u3nA5rcvZoHrH8rpkG4gyQWGuMw/8n ZM4c0GRL4TVjmFsNwyLC1HxNnYWI3e+f7kQpLiLMiUFb57jnJjxi1tdpAKkYY559gJEF PDG1M+Jd418GMBNjH4N0rB48260yYNIKIgPdJL5VfSEKpNXdr9QGK0qUDP3IRfp67ND6 78U2AVFPMrfZSmyWD/6MDGjVmczmMZZ3jmN+9aZkwbbzTRFFseKq4PXyjr8oabSomzxT wFRgq8lRXE19kryRYOf0jWzT9zMT0hPIKtK/AhFVfwNrsNan59UHGFTmVLXNOpumjRRk Jnkw== X-Received: by 10.67.23.227 with SMTP id id3mr2448291pad.101.1383723049340; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:30:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.50.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uw6sm39314560pbc.8.2013.11.05.23.30.45 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:30:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8b3b095a-02b4-4e25-87b4-3db926df40e3@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:35:50 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80067 Archived-At: >> Of course, they're different, but I assume the @ was chosen because >> it's also used for things like outline-minor-mode, i.e. for other >> features that hide parts of the buffer. > > `@' was proposed by Jambunathan, not I. I have no special objection > to `@' instead of `(', however. I do object to '('. Partly because I am tempted to think ')' will undo whatever it's other pair did. > But there is really more to it than that. There are at least these > hide/show commands in Dired: > > $ (`dired-hide-subdir') > M-$ (`dired-hide-all') > ( (`dired-hide-details-mode') > M-o (`dired-omit-mode') > > It is good that each of these is quick, but yes, we could put them > all on a prefix key. In that case, `M-o', `M-$', and `$' are also > good candidates for the prefix key. $ is indeed better than @. Remember `$' is used in conjunction with selective display. > We could have, for example: > > M-o s (`dired-hide-subdir') - `s' for subdi > M-o S (`dired-hide-all') - `S' for subdirs > M-o c (`dired-hide-details-mode') - `c' for columns > M-o r (`dired-omit-mode') - `r' for rows I object to M-o. The verb `Omit' is generally not used. It has bad connotations. (My mom will spank me if I omitted something) Let's omit omit and stick with show or hide.