From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23033: 24.5; Lock file uses the same extension as the file it's locking Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:10:50 +0100 Message-ID: <875zjutq51.fsf@marxist.se> References: <8jy49fnrpl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pni3t129.fsf@marxist.se> <83eeyicxh7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="26552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, mgsloan@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 15:13:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iT50d-0006km-Ft for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vcd7Y168jbK5uqHVBm1nCRoBNvpMtNNzRMu6Rol5CX4=; b=rSFSMy1VtdkOd4iLMDR/14Fc8S HhDHDF/pqfIuDFRyPcRNp/LGHCmvwjCCfype8ih8eeHejh8ejxuoR0LbZtukM3fulFRINHRafjGHq 1KaF9jtShY52p4EMzyiayFOHj2gvqVRfMRypAv2kY/Di7A1eaqkTzBm0IDLQxCsSsJPU=; Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:53522 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iT4yS-0007xV-Qc; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 08:10:53 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83eeyicxh7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Nov 2019 15:24:20 +0200") X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171216 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 06:00:14 +0100 >> Cc: 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Sloan >> >> As much as I agree with the general sentiment above, one could also >> consider users who are running e.g. 'find -iname "*.hs"' and are not >> necessarily interested in seeing Emacs lock files. IOW, if this is >> not a big change, it could be worth doing it. > > What change did you have in mind? AFAICT, no specific change was > proposed in that bug report. > > The advantage of the current method is that Dired and 'ls' display the > lock file right near the file that is locked, at least on most systems > and with the default file sorting order. If the change proposal will > order them far apart, it would be a disadvantage. My suggestion would be to add a one character suffix to the file name. For example ".", so that: lrwxrwxrwx 1 skangas skangas 30 2019-11-08 15:06 .#package.el -> skangas@joffe.31542:1572461517 Would instead look like: lrwxrwxrwx 1 skangas skangas 30 2019-11-08 15:06 .#package.el. -> skangas@joffe.31542:1572461517 That, I think, looks visually not too busy. (The most clear would be a suffix "-emacs-lock" or "-lock" but that is probably too ugly and long.) Best regards, Stefan Kangas