From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: marmot-te Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2021 14:10:13 +0000 Message-ID: <875z3bq3p6.fsf@host.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19592"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 46236@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 15:11:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6Zv6-000509-Ua for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2021 15:11:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43274 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6Zv5-000264-Te for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 1 Feb 2021 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1612188635; bh=dQPlkXt3AlYFDCs9tdkabpnjZ1Bjdkf9yTMEXl0wOyM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=ipuDlbRX4I1JDk7UV7QXXxXScASB58WKk8oLRjUUDQy147gNCzMmo7BGaR26lXHZk ok8xYg7QNotTJvgmENmEUrU/n18DeaHwHDgMRuJWcUIgvFKnw31cBeKDtKDnQZl8GI 9rpALz4qi6L0oiHHKtA6eO8a5H8r3oLOoCmIsXVI= X-Riseup-User-ID: EEFAA97C303E0E7963B640FBA181674DDCAC4BFB3FC3AF5559A6741EC7488C3B Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DTqbM6Wvgz5wHQ for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 06:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=marmot-te@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199078 Archived-At: Hello, It is a common issue for many new emacs users to figure out how to get the info files for emacs, for its packages, and eventually for others systems packages. Somes probably never figures it out. It is indeed sad since we all need theses nices info files. I suggest to add a notice in the info/dir file itself (or at least an info link easy to notice, be it to the FAQ or not) that explicit that you probably need to install system-wise : - extra documentations packages such as bash-doc, emacs-common-non-dfsg (non-free repository for debian). - ensure texinfo is installed in order to compile documentation when new emacs packages are installed. Another step may be to trigger a message when an user type "C-h RET" and there is no "emacs the editor" manual (so obviously the user does not have the info files installed when he is asking for it). I already write about this subject here : https://teddit.net/r/emacs/comments/jm4e0k/rtfm_quest_or_the_info_files_like_it_was_supposed/ I know this is specific since it probably only affect debian / fedora & derivatives users but I have no idea to what are the steps for the OS to find and install others info files. -- <:3nn~~ <:3nn~~ <:3nn~~