From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46240: Sorting order of read-char-by-name Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 09:40:31 +0100 Message-ID: <875z3aooao.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9bb4tm2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83wnvr65zg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16726"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Juri Linkov , 46240@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 02 09:41:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rFP-0004FU-Eb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 09:41:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44828 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rFO-0004Ry-Dd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:41:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rF9-0004RW-GL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:41:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:50672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rF8-00053Y-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:41:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rF8-0007Xd-1U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:41:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 08:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46240-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46240.161225524428953 (code B ref 46240); Tue, 02 Feb 2021 08:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46240) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2021 08:40:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33985 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rEp-0007Wv-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rEo-0007Wc-1h for 46240@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 03:40:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=OQ+Slk5LkrALgTJPLzBPbxr4ZXNqHdEg1KeHU8/2z7Y=; b=PQwYVmUYU8RTQBeBAcAoqJ8b6J qGhAxrrf7tII+AvtJTc3cu1wdqdNo35CKHEOaWxuQGq54MOJv/qFLtTbMmKXqMsZvp0leWXKxNwT1 4UYZv+NmSSQNuoU2jkJ83Rnz7zowqZE/OtwKOLT9vCvJLECdaEtNRMh3p689EgE/onrE=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6rEe-0002D6-Pv; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 09:40:35 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Joe Jackson's _At the BBC (1)_: "It's Different For Girls" In-Reply-To: <83wnvr65zg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Feb 2021 19:41:07 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:199121 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The current order, while it doesn't follow the order of the characters > within the script, makes it very easy to find the character for anyone > who knows English (more generally, Latin) alphabet. So I'm not sure > the proposed change is necessarily for the better, at least not in all > the use cases. I agree -- sorting by the Unicode character names is better here, I think. The command is for inserting characters you don't use constantly (because if you did, you'd use a different input method that made those characters more readily available), which means that you probably aren't super-familiar with them. So you'd be looking at the (English) descriptions of the characters to find the one you want. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no