From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41814: defmethod cl-print-object is not entirely reliable Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 13:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: <875yyi57pm.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ftb1qsfh.fsf@gmail.com> <878sgs4m2b.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: akater , 41814@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 13:24:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODr-0008wE-1Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 13:24:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODp-0003ly-Oe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODi-0003lN-Rl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODi-0007f8-IK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODi-0001nB-Ew for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 11:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41814 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41814-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41814.16235834266834 (code B ref 41814); Sun, 13 Jun 2021 11:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2021 11:23:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42773 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODR-0001mA-K5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:23:45 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODO-0001lq-Q6 for 41814@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 07:23:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=44DieeWUXpqWQrepFuv7D+FDBZsfwB1nl50Lz/sbfjY=; b=B+7vOzcIf53rii5Dr0lqvR8qZZ +8GaV8hskYFkEI8HKNxBVZpu6TZPHM1N8IVmeo9tQB2hWx1ZrTRX8LyVPoeRmBOzhC09m823eCdbU /K6OC28N/ggnYGaCFKL9iDeAr917PcF9rrOX2FQSYarqsPfMqhZEJwTtmU3ScYzeUqOc=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lsODG-0003NB-Ez; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 13:23:36 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Boris with Merzbow's _Gensho (4)_: "Akuma no Uta" In-Reply-To: <878sgs4m2b.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 12 Jun 2020 12:26:20 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208419 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Yes, this doesn't use cl-print at all. And I think that makes sense: > when inserting a value into a buffer, readability is important (that > doesn't make a difference in your case, though). > > We have different printers now in Elisp, and implementing > cl-print-object only has an effect when cl-print is used. Yup -- I don't think there's a bug here. The standard Emacs eval/printing commands aren't affected by the cl print definitions, but instead uses a slew of different things to DWIM the printing, and we can't change that. > I dunno if that fact could be better documented to avoid this kind of > confusion. I don't think anything in our documentation (as far as I know) should lead anybody to think that doing something in cl-print should affect `C-u C-x C-e', so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no