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Mon, 24 Jan 2022 03:16:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14F24EE3-901E-4622-8210-6C4F2134E9BA@acm.org> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:40:01 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:225028 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:40:01 +0100, Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd said: Mattias> 24 jan. 2022 kl. 10.21 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : >> Emacs defaults to showing some things in octal, so showing octal here >> isn't that absurd... Mattias> What things would that be? The only ones I can think of are ra= w bytes and some control characters. Mattias> The only reason why C-x =3D shows octal is inertia. If you wro= te the command today, you would not include octal. Mattias> This is just another Immovable Ladder in Emacs. It must be pre= served Mattias> exactly as it is, for the sole reason that it has always been = this Mattias> way. >> `C-x 8 e d' says what the name of the character is. Perhaps it shou= ld >> also include the hex value... Mattias> Or perhaps we could improve the more commonly used and accessi= ble `C-x =3D` to show both? Mattias> I could write a patch to change it (with an option to keep the= Good Mattias> Old Times look for the traditionalist), but there's no point i= f it Mattias> would be dismissed out of hand. Would it? I sense a discoverability issue related to 'what-cursor-show-names' :-) (FWIW I agree about the octal, but that is another discussion) Robert --=20