From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>,
24902@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24902: 25.1; C-x = for Unicode
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 12:16:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yq9jse4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14F24EE3-901E-4622-8210-6C4F2134E9BA@acm.org> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:40:01 +0100")
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:40:01 +0100, Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org> said:
Mattias> 24 jan. 2022 kl. 10.21 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
>> Emacs defaults to showing some things in octal, so showing octal here
>> isn't that absurd...
Mattias> What things would that be? The only ones I can think of are raw bytes and some control characters.
Mattias> The only reason why C-x = shows octal is inertia. If you wrote the command today, you would not include octal.
Mattias> This is just another Immovable Ladder in Emacs. It must be preserved
Mattias> exactly as it is, for the sole reason that it has always been this
Mattias> way.
>> `C-x 8 e d' says what the name of the character is. Perhaps it should
>> also include the hex value...
Mattias> Or perhaps we could improve the more commonly used and accessible `C-x =` to show both?
Mattias> I could write a patch to change it (with an option to keep the Good
Mattias> Old Times look for the traditionalist), but there's no point if it
Mattias> would be dismissed out of hand. Would it?
I sense a discoverability issue related to 'what-cursor-show-names'
:-)
(FWIW I agree about the octal, but that is another discussion)
Robert
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-08 12:02 bug#24902: 25.1; C-x = for Unicode Ulrich Windl
2016-11-08 12:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-11-08 13:49 ` bug#24902: Antw: " Ulrich Windl
2016-11-08 19:53 ` Phil Sainty
2016-11-10 4:56 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-11-10 7:23 ` Mark Oteiza
2016-11-08 12:25 ` Phil Sainty
2022-01-23 16:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-23 16:56 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-01-23 18:44 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 9:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 10:40 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 11:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 11:27 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-24 14:09 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 16:06 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 16:28 ` bug#24902: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-24 16:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 17:29 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 15:38 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-25 16:41 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-25 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 18:00 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-25 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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[not found] ` <469D64F5020000015C413831@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
[not found] ` <D3C7A175020000FA5C413831@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
[not found] ` <A9CE96C702000053824A10E1@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
[not found] ` <A7201B24020000235C413831@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
2022-01-26 7:09 ` bug#24902: Antw: [EXT] " Ulrich Windl
[not found] ` <DD8FDCE7020000A54D5C4BFC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
[not found] ` <0106AEA10200006A824A10E1@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
2022-01-26 14:09 ` Ulrich Windl
2022-01-26 16:53 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-26 17:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-27 15:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-27 17:11 ` Juri Linkov
2022-01-28 13:09 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-28 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-28 17:05 ` bug#24902: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-29 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-29 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 15:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-30 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 9:59 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-31 15:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-31 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 17:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-31 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01 5:06 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-31 17:40 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-31 17:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-31 18:15 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-31 18:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-28 13:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-28 14:16 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-28 17:05 ` bug#24902: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-29 14:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-29 16:47 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-30 15:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
[not found] ` <13FDBD490200009C5C413831@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
[not found] ` <6?= =?UTF-8?Q?1F261F5020?= =?UTF-8?Q?000A100047?= =?UTF-8?Q?30B@gwsmtp?= =?UTF-8?Q?.uni-regen?= =?UTF-8?Q?sburg.de>
2022-01-27 9:12 ` bug#24902: Antw: [EXT] Re: bug#24902: 25.1; C‑x " Ulrich Windl
2022-01-27 9:43 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-27 10:11 ` bug#24902: Antw: [EXT] Re: bug#24902: 25.1; C‑x= " Ulrich Windl
2022-01-27 10:20 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-27 12:38 ` bug#24902: Antw: [EXT] Re: bug#24902: 25.1; C‑x = " Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-27 13:24 ` Ulrich Windl
2022-01-27 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26 13:10 ` bug#24902: 25.1; C-x " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-26 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26 13:46 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-26 14:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-26 13:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-26 17:02 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-01-24 11:16 ` Robert Pluim [this message]
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