From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56691: outline-minor-mode displays navigation arrow buttons as emojis Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:50:30 +0200 Message-ID: <875yjgkoyh.fsf@gnus.org> References: <15cd39ee8fe919a8656095fbfa5ae85e@purelymail.com> <83k085lhj1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7xg5ob9.fsf@gnus.org> <83tu78i9xz.fsf@gnu.org> <875yjo47a8.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmhwi8i7.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0842s4s.fsf@gnus.org> <83o7xgi53z.fsf@gnu.org> <87zggyyiy3.fsf@gnus.org> <874jz1wgzm.fsf@gnus.org> <83sfml8gez.fsf@gnu.org> <87czdom9w6.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnbw6r9o.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfmkjda6.fsf@gmail.com> <83sfmk6nze.fsf@gnu.org> <87a68skpi8.fsf@gnus.org> <83pmho6nhs.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32948"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 56691@debbugs.gnu.org, hello@paulwrankin.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 29 15:51:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oHQOb-0008Jy-J8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oHQNr-000730-0K; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:50:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83pmho6nhs.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2022 16:45:51 +0300") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEX8/PzT1c7Cxbub n5tbXl09P0B9goAjIyP///9OMG5TAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+YHHQsUGC0NoY8AAAG2 SURBVDjLzZJNbtswEIWd+gKW1WQdU84BzGHVtcOhsy5KgvvE6AUigdfPeyM7bdptUXQgAtJ8mr83 XK3+a+tcd9PB/gAi0uPI7///Yh//Dz7KMCAi+H86wWazWa1shs0H/2dFP5IKLO+6rWNr4xHgk3TB 3LDvFyAHgLXbBoVTaY8gVwAhFCCr4tFDtx0u4G7U58AIC4os49w9i5+1Z6rMIJCOxMCP+JQTvFbl FDzJjkBeqnkT/C/MD8KIO5EliZmw3V23gNBm+tJCaP5gqb62Rlf+CeQdTOIlxHD1CyW5zQ+tzSwT 3yudjibiFwJYmAtFw3Y9273ZAkwnVBye3R7vGbpwAf2w54fqqHEMqbUCwHYfUm1zJoGYKeFFvIE1 5pgoVaHIbY4izlIZSPk6R/QDJrca4xkAYuVlaOf8Ikl/1jZpLnU+JaZxDqnubcDSpqChtNyOAwDP EoGuWCPF+uqUwNs+ekHvjcNrbVGZzjsTMWqt7WIWiv6o1fqJ3/QWnBzPqdTyjVrtkX5OiFJtLdr4 +mg30aWCFSYGAIhdPJt8LFxhnUheZbwC3HNcPghh52D3zVb71+wNr3qtX4v6ItAAAAAldEVYdGRh dGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjItMDctMjlUMTE6MjA6MjQrMDA6MDDPKhh8AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlm eQAyMDIyLTA3LTI5VDExOjIwOjI0KzAwOjAwvnegwAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Normil Hawaiians's _More Wealth Than Money_: "Other Ways Of Knowing (demo)" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238174 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > OK, but then the feature becomes much less attractive, IMNSHO. > Basically, we are saying that all the smarts of selecting the best > available method will almost never see action. Yes, I agree. > And beyond that, there's a problem of how will users know which single > element to put there, unless they only ever work on a single display > type. Even TTY frames vs GUI frames on the same machine could need > different methods. > > So maybe a good compromise is to look at the build details after all, > and consider a system that can display color Emoji as being capable > without checking whether it actually is possible. That still leaves > the TTY case unsolved, but maybe we can look at the name of the > terminal emulator? Or have a separate defcustom for what happens on > TTY frames? Perhaps we can allow the user to extend the predicates for each type more easily -- for instance, by having (say) icon-emoji-predicate (etc) that can be set to (x tty) (or whatever) in addition to the current predicate functions? Or something along those lines. (I'll be mostly off-line for the rest of the day, but should be back tomorrow and I'll take a look at this then.)