From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64724: 30.0.50; Inconsistency between manual, comments in the code, and implementation of point adjustment Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:57:02 +0000 Message-ID: <875y6erjm9.fsf@localhost> References: <87bkg81j0i.fsf@localhost> <83fs5j4zti.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 64724@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 20 11:57:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQPa-0007VV-2R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:57:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQPB-00036q-IP; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQP8-00036K-P5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQP8-0007gj-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQP8-0000Vt-Dp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64724 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64724-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64724.16898470191963 (code B ref 64724); Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64724) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2023 09:56:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57707 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQP5-0000Vb-6q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:56:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:35791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qMQP3-0000VK-8G for 64724@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:56:58 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A797A240101 for <64724@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:56:51 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1689847011; bh=1BsLmcSIXqY+rm9OK/3v+s+6vL4DHXRJnJugaSbcPfM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=btsAnPrUJWjlEkzHoyv+pW7zG5uB0rXpmhWymnBCsfZE3gPTpzd2RwSRo6wjQk67O m2iPiDeJU9EDN36x0hne82jq3QjNtkWJsEUQNNsbTmFZZL8DKH1kKhZ6KdmYpKy+m+ CEHMLJPznsuP8ACf68tH+iNLoQK3FnCaziPL1pS9McHHnLFB3g1tvDJx6q06ai6BGq uO0+N4v7J2H/ndogn3UkX06SRT4SaKQxe4aoELxoz4RV9MpwIa8yjxdStIxftVJPaz 2mZnEAHgN9mT3LtQ/j2BCCiLmjVkV+MfEvCJzACRG7EdFg3D6Aj4FKVMvEiC4FStkf IwiAjsVs3WhbQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R67Pv0WWKz6tyR; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:56:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265580 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Indeed, the `set_point_both` adjustment is an obsolete (mis-)feature > that has been deprecated since Emacs-25, when > `inhibit-point-motion-hooks`s default has been changed to t (and > replaced with `cursor-sensor-mode` and > `cursor-intangible-mode`). Will it ever be removed though? It appears to affect outline mode a lot. We just recently received a somewhat related report with yet another point adjustment subtlety: * Short heading... * Very very very very long heading... C-p will move after hidden text above: * Short heading... * Very very very very long heading... And I am pretty sure that there are many edge cases like this, which rely on the implementation details with point adjustment. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at