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Stephen> Sorry, I don't follow you here. (Or do you mean like the key = sequences Stephen> I give for these characters below? But there there's no ESC a= nd no Stephen> release.) Sorry, it=CA=BCs the T2 sequence for entering "=E2=80=98", just to show why= we don=CA=BCt want to emulate it. Stephen> Probably. To add to the convolution, I use a German keyboard = under Stephen> Xfce4 with the no dead keys layout, and that assigns "=E2=80= =9E" to AltGr-v and Stephen> "=E2=80=9C" to AltGr-b; no idea why... >>=20 >> That=CA=BCs a gratuitous but coherent difference from the T2 layout,= and >> much easier to type. 'C-x 8 v' and 'C-x 8 b' (and thus 'A-v' and >> 'A-b') are unused by iso-transl, we could put them there as well (or >> only there) for the German language, since they seem sensible. >>=20 >> Where do you have "=E2=80=9A" and "=E2=80=98"? We can copy those as = well. Stephen> AltGr-S-v for "=E2=80=9A" and AltGr-S-b for "=E2=80=98", which= nicely parallels the Stephen> bindings for "=E2=80=9E" and "=E2=80=9C", but it seems that ca= n't be done with the C-x 8 Stephen> map: Typing `C-x 8 S-v' tells me "C-x 8 v is undefined" (n.b.:= "v" not "V"). It can be done, we just need to add the mappings to iso-transl.el. Emacs is showing "v" instead of "V" because it automatically downcases the binding when there=CA=BCs no binding for the uppercase key sequence. See eg 'C-x 8 L' which has only an upper case binding, or 'C-x 8 c', which has both upper and lower case bindings. I=CA=BCll update the patch to use v/b/n, and drop the 9/0 bindings, which aligns Emacs with the usual GNU/Linux German keyboard layout. Robert --=20