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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
@ 2024-12-20 15:44 Fran Burstall
  2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Fran Burstall @ 2024-12-20 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 74995


According to the NEWS, there are new functions

shortdoc-function-examples
shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function

and a suggestion to

(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
    #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)

However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
package is loaded.

Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?

Thanks,

---Fran




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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
  2024-12-20 15:44 bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded Fran Burstall
@ 2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-12-20 17:08   ` Fran Burstall (Gmail)
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-20 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fran Burstall; +Cc: 74995

> From: Fran Burstall <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:44:25 +0000
> 
> 
> According to the NEWS, there are new functions
> 
> shortdoc-function-examples
> shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
> 
> and a suggestion to
> 
> (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
>     #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
> 
> However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
> package is loaded.
> 
> Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?

I started "emacs -Q", inserted

    (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
	#'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)

into *scratch*, evaluated it, then typed "C-h f string-replace RET"
and got a *Help* buffer with an example of using string-replace.  So
I'm not sure why you say we need autoload cookies, since the advice in
NEWS seems to work OOTB.  What did I miss?

Thanks.





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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
  2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-20 17:08   ` Fran Burstall (Gmail)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Fran Burstall (Gmail) @ 2024-12-20 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74995

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Sorry.  It seems that things are slightly more complicated.  I get the same
as you from emacs -Q.

To get what I saw, from emacs -Q, put

(require 'help-fns)  ; something I load, loads this.

(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
  #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)

into *scratch* and evaluate both forms.  Now doing "C-h append RET" causes:

help-fns--run-describe-functions: Symbol’s function definition is void:
shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function

Thanks,

---Fran


On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 15:56, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Fran Burstall <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:44:25 +0000
> >
> >
> > According to the NEWS, there are new functions
> >
> > shortdoc-function-examples
> > shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
> >
> > and a suggestion to
> >
> > (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
> >     #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
> >
> > However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
> > package is loaded.
> >
> > Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?
>
> I started "emacs -Q", inserted
>
>     (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
>         #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
>
> into *scratch*, evaluated it, then typed "C-h f string-replace RET"
> and got a *Help* buffer with an example of using string-replace.  So
> I'm not sure why you say we need autoload cookies, since the advice in
> NEWS seems to work OOTB.  What did I miss?
>
> Thanks.
>

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