From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6192: 24.0.50; eldoc-mode: unexpected recentering Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:47:04 +0200 Message-ID: <874oi6oo6f.fsf@escher.home> References: <878w7mjtml.fsf@escher.home> <83tyqa2nyn.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrv6i2ft.fsf@escher.home> <837hn5fz7c.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrv5897x.fsf@escher.home> <4BEED16D.2090305@gmx.at> <87ocgh84b6.fsf@escher.home> <4BEEEFB6.7060106@gmx.at> <87d3ww96g2.fsf@escher.home> <4BEFAA20.9000301@gmx.at> <87ljbkyvjm.fsf@escher.home> <4BEFE6A4.2020207@gmx.at> <87hbm8yoyp.fsf@escher.home> <4BF03E92.40909@gmx.at> <87d3wvzkzs.fsf@escher.home> <4BF106FA.7090502@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274090227 9429 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2010 09:57:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6192@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 17 11:57:05 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODx4H-0000CQ-PE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:57:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36639 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODx4H-0007gi-5s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37984 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODx48-0007ff-0e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODx44-0003uQ-EZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50418) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODx44-0003uK-BI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODwvZ-0001pX-JX; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:48:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6192-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6192.12740896327021 (code B ref 6192); Mon, 17 May 2010 09:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6192) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2010 09:47:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODwum-0001pC-E7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODwuj-0001p5-L2 for 6192@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 05:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 May 2010 09:47:05 -0000 Original-Received: from i59F56286.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.98.134] by mail.gmx.net (mp051) with SMTP; 17 May 2010 11:47:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19aJ4IADEBa+xIHD/A1z3bt/zYmNnzuUrroJPL3fH nF+chzcdbm7vBJ Original-Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 233E310337; Mon, 17 May 2010 11:47:05 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4BF106FA.7090502@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 17 May 2010 11:06:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 05:48:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:36983 Archived-At: On Mon, 17 May 2010 11:06:02 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: >> I still have no idea why there's the .emacs/-Q asymmetry. > > Maybe the effect of loading .emacs vs running Emacs with -Q? Did you > ever try with a .emacs containing something unrelated and/or putting > the (add-hook ...) in the command invoking Emacs? It turns out that there is no .emacs/-Q asymmetry. As I reported in my previous post, I found out that the resizing only happens with (at least) three monospaced fonts on my system, including "my default font" DejaVu Sans Mono. What I meant is that this is the font I standardly use when running Emacs, which I set in my init file. But when I start with -Q, Emacs uses the font Andale Mono, which is similar enough to DejaVu Sans Mono that I (not having the sharpest eyesight) neglected to take that difference into account. I did so now, starting Emacs with -Q, changing the font (via the Options menu item Set Default Font) to DejaVu Sans Mono, visiting abbrev.el, enabling Eldoc mode (via M-x eldoc-mode), scrolled to the bottom, typed M-v, and observed the echo area resize when it displayed the Eldoc message (and point was recentered). Moreover, as I also mentioned previously, this is independent of Eldoc mode, since evalling (message (propertize "test" 'face 'bold)) in *scratch* (with eldoc-mode not enabled) also induces echo area resizing (with the problematic font). In short, this bug now boils down to this: the echo area resizes with certain fonts (including DejaVu Sans Mono) when it displays a message that includes bold face. Whether this is a bug in Emacs or the problematic fonts, I don't know. Do you (or Eli or some other Windows user) have DejaVu Sans Mono, and if so, do you see the resizing when you use it? Steve Berman