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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:16:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874o81xfng.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvmxlucc94.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:37:35 -0500 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: 

SM> - for the user name, the prompt says something like "[USER?]diro:143",
SM>   which is very cryptic.  While I know why there's a "143" there,
SM>   there's no reason to expect users to know that (my .gnus doesn't
SM>   mention any port number).  Worse: I really have no clue what the "USER?"
SM>   is about.
SM> - for the password, the prompt again mentioned 143, which I also thing
SM>   is not warranted.
SM> - then I get prompted to save the password, which is the worst of the
SM>   three:
SM>   - the prompt is *very* long (more than 80 chars).
SM>   - it includes the password in cleartext (WTF?).

Yeah, I see now it was a mistake the way I did it.

SM>   - none of the extra data is really something I care about when
SM>     deciding whether I want to save my password in .authinfo.gpg.
SM>     It's just distracting from the main issue.

I *very much* care what goes into that file and want to see the exact
text.  So find my proposal to accomodate normal and obsessive users
alike below :)

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:19:58 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LI> The prompts should simply be

LI> "User name for diro:imap: "

LI> and 

LI> "Password for diro:imap: "

LI> Or something like that.  Well, really, the host name should be the
LI> (real) fully qualified host name, if possible, but that may not be
LI> feasible.

OK, I'll work on improving those prompts.

>> - then I get prompted to save the password, which is the worst of the
>> three:

LI> Yes, it should just say "Save the password for future sessions? " and
LI> not much more.

How about:

"Save the $HOSTNAME password for future sessions? y/n/s/?"

where `s' shows the line we will add with the password replaced by ****?

Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-18 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.12.1297821996.25725.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-16 18:29 ` bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Ted Zlatanov
     [not found] ` <874o836dfv.fsf@lifelogs.com>
2011-02-16 21:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-16 21:34     ` Michael Albinus
2011-02-16 22:08     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18  0:24       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18  2:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-18  8:19           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-18 20:16           ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-02-18 22:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-22 21:51               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-18 23:04             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-22 22:46               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <mailman.4.1298416010.11499.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-22 23:47                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-16 21:26   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-16  1:54 Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24  1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <mailman.0.1298509609.2066.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-02-24 12:50   ` Ted Zlatanov
     [not found]   ` <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com>
2011-02-24 15:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-24 16:29       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25  4:29     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]     ` <87wrkobutr.fsf@gnus.org>
2011-02-25 11:21       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-25 11:50         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 12:17         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-25 17:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <mailman.17.1299357452.24947.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-07 18:23   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 23:10     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2.1299548219.4111.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-08 16:46       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 19:49         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 21:34         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <mailman.12.1299620228.21372.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-08 21:57           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  3:04             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <mailman.4.1299640020.25099.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-09 11:20               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 18:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4.1299703021.13037.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-09 21:34                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  2:16                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12  3:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.1.1299902822.7270.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 18:08                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-14 13:58                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 18:33     ` Ted Zlatanov

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