From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Romain Francoise Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11514: 24.0.97; gnus-user-agent no longer sets up Gcc Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:38:58 +0200 Organization: orebokech dot com Message-ID: <874nr8is19.fsf@silenus.orebokech.com> References: <87bollw5d3.fsf@silenus.orebokech.com> <87likloiyo.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337672370 8941 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2012 07:39:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 11514@debbugs.gnu.org, Sven Joachim To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 22 09:39:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjgl-000744-AU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 09:39:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39443 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjgk-0002c4-NG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjgi-0002bi-78 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjgf-0003Ip-4Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:23 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:56681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjgf-0003Ih-1f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjhK-0007EZ-02; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Romain Francoise Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11514 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11514-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11514.133767239027783 (code B ref 11514); Tue, 22 May 2012 07:40:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11514) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2012 07:39:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjh7-0007E4-Lu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from stringer.orebokech.com ([88.190.240.207]:53678) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SWjh5-0007Dp-Ka for 11514@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2012 03:39:48 -0400 Original-Received: from silenus.orebokech.com (silenus [192.168.1.4]) by stringer.orebokech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8C518801AB; Tue, 22 May 2012 09:38:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by silenus.orebokech.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E775B9FEE5; Tue, 22 May 2012 09:38:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: }9mYu, e_@+e!`Z-P5kVXa3\_b:hdJ"B)ww[&=b<2=awG:GOIM (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Tue, 22 May 2012 08:29:09 +0900") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60276 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > This is the issue of only a case where Gnus is running, since > Gcc is Gnus' feature and the `gnus-user-agent' agent behaves > like the `message-user-agent' agent now if Gnus is not alive: > [...] Which is rather suboptimal... if the user explicitly configured `gnus-user-agent' then we should start enough Gnus bits to make Gcc (and other Gnus features) work. If that's not possible then it should complain loudly about the downgrade, or refuse to work at all. Losing outgoing mail isn't nice. > Reverting this change does not help. I believe the right fix is > to modify `gnus-msg-mail' so as to bind `gnus-newsgroup-name' to > a string like `gnus-group-mail' does. Fixed in the emacs-24 branch. Works for me, thanks!