From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14447: tramp-gvfs.el and xesam.el sometime fail to load Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 12:06:45 +0200 Message-ID: <874nds7kui.fsf@gmx.de> References: <8761yacbk7.fsf@gmx.de> <87ip29bxty.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369390041 17705 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2013 10:07:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14447-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 24 12:07:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufou6-00025R-Tx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 12:07:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41123 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufou5-000458-NR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufotx-00043m-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufotv-0008Ub-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufotv-0008UU-RG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufouo-0003IW-BG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:08:02 -0400 Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 14447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 14447@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, rgm@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by 14447-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D14447.136939007312646 (code D ref 14447); Fri, 24 May 2013 10:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14447-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2013 10:07:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59659 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufouf-0003Hv-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:54644) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ufouc-0003Hd-JS for 14447-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:07:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.10]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MZRZ5-1UtuKr48cP-00LCMt for <14447-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 May 2013 12:06:49 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 May 2013 10:06:48 -0000 Original-Received: from p5B29853F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [91.41.133.63] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 24 May 2013 12:06:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19MIepU94BMdSP400i3DE4t1lYPcZnwyC3JDKJXD8 XVu9yvSqFiLosd In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 May 2013 12:43:01 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74520 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I understand this. However, there shall be an indication to the user >> that all those (D-Bus based) Tramp methods are not available. How shall I >> do it otherwise? > > Don't do it when loading the file, but instead do it when calling > its functions. Done. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.