From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#139: describe-key vs. widget red tape Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:40:07 +0200 Message-ID: <874l0ugrl4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mynwgrxb.fsf@jidanni.org> <877e5ql42d.fsf@gnus.org> <8336gedyus.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="265695"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 139@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 30 09:41:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIx-0016zG-0T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIv-0007Xt-Qt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIp-0007Xn-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:41:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIo-0006d9-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIo-0006cw-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqIo-0003lK-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 139 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 139-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B139.156982921814394 (code B ref 139); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:40:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqI5-0003k6-PB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:40:18 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqI4-0003jw-2I for 139@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqHw-0004m6-5l; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:40:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8336gedyus.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:31:23 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:167842 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> We could teach describe-key about certain common constructs, like >> widgets and buttons, but that would be very ad hoc indeed, I think? > > If the action of the button is not clear from the button's label, it > should have a help-echo string which describes that. What the button does may be clear, but it can be somewhat convoluted to determine precisely what function is going to end up being run. (This is for introspection/debugging purposes.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no